Jeep JK Wrangler 2.5″ Budget Boost
Installation Write-Up


Thanks to the wide open fender design that the Jeep JK Wrangler has, you can pretty much run a 33″ tires bone stock and get up on a set of 35″ tires with very little effort. Of course, the easiest and most cost effective way to get the extra clearance you need to run them is to install a 2.5″ coil spacer lift. More commonly known as a budget boost, coil spacers are cylindrical blocks that are made of a polymer or sometimes steel and they are designed to sit on top of your factory coils to give you as much lift as they are tall. When installed with a set of shock adapters, you will effectively have a small lift that will not change the quality of your ride and do it all for about $350. This write-up will give you a general idea just how easy it is to install a budget boost on your Jeep JK Wrangler.

Jeep JK Wrangler 2.5″ Budget Boost Installation Write-Up

328 Comments so far

  1. Jay March 8th, 2007 11:07 am

    Hey Eddie; How is the axle alignment.. Do you think you need adjustable track bars..?? Hows the caster..?? Do you think you need add anything to make this kit better..

  2. wayoflife March 8th, 2007 11:33 am

    Hey Jay, I’d have to say, so far so good. Having driven my JK extensively after doing the lift and having taken it out on the trails, I’m actually surprised at how well my handling is and I haven’t had any issues with the ESP system to speak of. Caster is off a bit but not enough to cause any more wandering that what I had off the showroom floor. A new adjustable front track bar and relocation bracket for the rear would be nice to recenter the axle but so far, I haven’t felt the “need” for one. As far as alignment goes, because of the way the steering is designed on the JK, no toe-in adjustment was necessary and since I’m still using the stock track bar without any adjustments to it, my steering wheels stayed dead center too. Do I think I need to add anything to make this kit better? Sure, at the very least, a longer set of sway bar links (or disconnects up front if you don’t have a Rubicon) would be nice but aren’t necessary. Also, new longer shocks would be the better way to go but in all honesty, the extension brackets seem to work out great too. All in all, I have to say that I really like this budget boost and would have to recommend it to anyone interested in it. You won’t be disappointed :)

    Eddie

  3. jeeptx March 13th, 2007 2:25 am

    Hi Eddie,

    I was wondering if you had to add any front spacers to compensate for the added weight of the powerplant and/or front bumper?

  4. wayoflife March 13th, 2007 9:38 am

    Hi jeeptx,
    I don’t, but it doesn’t look too bad without them. I can tell you that the added weight of the WARN bumper and PowerPlant winch that I’m running right now has caused my front end to droop about 3/4″ and spacers is on my to do list.

    Eddie

  5. Rob March 20th, 2007 4:14 pm

    3-20 Do you have the 35″ tires on yet?
    If so what are your impressions on ride, rubbing etc

    thx

  6. wayoflife March 21st, 2007 2:54 am

    Hey Rob, there was a backorder on the new wheels and so I’m still waiting to get them. Hopefully they will be here soon.

    Eddie

  7. Nick March 25th, 2007 11:40 pm

    How is that warn bumper working out for you? Any problems with the skid plate that can go along with it? I have the 07 2 door rubicon with no lift and i am stuck between that bumper and the AEV bumper that just came out. Any suggestions.

  8. wayoflife March 26th, 2007 9:44 am

    Hi Nick,
    I like my Warn bumper a lot but it is heavy and depending on what winch you use with it, you should expect to loose some height with it. But then, that’s a problem with any steel front bumper, AEV included. The AEV bumper is a great looking bumper but what I do like about the Warn over it is the fact that it isn’t a 100% full width bumper and it allows for better approach angles.

    Eddie

  9. Nick March 26th, 2007 7:44 pm

    Any word on skid plates for the muffler thats in the back now? ive seen them on some pictures.

  10. wayoflife March 27th, 2007 3:19 pm

    Sorry, but none are available at this time. If anyone will have it out soon it will be http://www.RockHard4×4Parts.com

    Eddie

  11. 4EverLSU March 28th, 2007 8:56 pm

    Nick, I’m looking into getting a 2″ to 2.5″ Budget Boost for my first mod (JK Unlimited is less than a week old), and I’m hearing conflicting stories about whether I need new shocks or not. Yes, I can see where new shocks with the BB would be a good idea, how badly does it run without them? You said you took it trailriding, no problems? Was the swaybar disco’d when you took it out? What problems have you encountered without replacing the stock shocks?

  12. 4EverLSU March 28th, 2007 10:54 pm

    Ooops…sorry, that should have gone to wayoflife.

  13. wayoflife March 29th, 2007 11:04 am

    Hey 4EverLSU, using the shock extensions that you can get with the TeraFlex 2.5″ BB, you won’t have any problems on or off the pavement. At least, I didn’t and yes, I have wheeled my JK disconnected with this setup through some pretty tough terrain.

    Eddie

  14. Nick March 30th, 2007 7:54 pm

    what tires are you running offroad? with the 2.5″ can u fit 35’s? I havent put my 2 door rubicon to the test yet and was wondering if the 32″ BFG mud terrains work well offroad or should i get a diff set up

  15. Greg T April 7th, 2007 3:41 am

    I have lifted my Jeep (4dr Sahara) with this lift too. I put 35×12.5×17 Dunlop Mud Rovers on 17×9 ProComp Rims. I have had them on about a month and haven’t rubbed anywhere. It looked okay with the stock wheels and tires on it after the lift, but the new tires really set it off.

  16. Chris Brenner April 10th, 2007 5:36 pm

    Hi Eddie,

    I have been looking at doing the same to my JK (2.5 lift w/35’s). Can you tell me the height after the install. I want to know if it will fit in my parking Garage.

    Thanks

    Chris

  17. wayoflife April 10th, 2007 7:42 pm

    Hi Nick,
    I apologize for not responding to you sooner, I had been in Moab all week and just got back in town. Anyway, to answer your question, I was running the stock 32’s for quite some time and think it or 33’s make a great fit. I am now on 35’s and can tell you that it does rub the front fenders a bit at a full stuff. But then, I think if I had different back spacing, they may not.

    Hi Chris,
    Sorry, I haven’t had a chance to take an exact measurement but can tell you that my garage door opening stands 6′-11″ tall and I can make it in with ample room to spare… maybe a whole 5″-6″ to go.

    Eddie

  18. Brian April 11th, 2007 10:32 am

    Eddie,
    Good stuff on the lift information and tire sizes. I’m looking to purchase a new JK Rubicon 4 Door, put a mild lift on it and take my family 4 wheeln’ with me on my local club runs. I currently have a custom built CJ with one original 1982 part in it.. maybe you can guess ! I love my CJ which was built from many CJ, YJ and FSJ parts, Dana 44’s, lockers, TeraLow, GM fuel injected AMC 360, etc. and it has served me many years of great service off road. My requirements have changed and I now have a family. I have three questions for you:

    1. Do you feel comfortable putting a family in this vehicle on/off road with this lift in it? 32, 33, 35 tire size?
    2. Have you experienced any of the “Free Flow” top issues with the hard top leaking, electrical problems of the motor shutting down while on the road moving and of course the Radio burning out?
    3. When is this vehicle getting a V8, 4.7 or 5.7 Hemi? I guess these guys forgot about the 2.8L Carb V6 in the original XJ, underpowered, slow and got lousy mileage…Also, what respectable man wants a Mini-van engine in his Jeep? I can’t understand why Jeep selected a 3.8L engine for a 4300lb vehicle..my CJ weighs 4400lbs dry without gear and I have a V8 that moves it along well but by no means is it a speed demon especially with 4.56 gears and 33 swampers.

    thanks

    bsr

  19. Greg T April 13th, 2007 4:03 am

    Chris,
    I have my top off right now, so without the top my Jeep sits 6′2″ to the top of the soft top door brackets. So I would add a few inches for the top.

    BSR,
    I have a preganant wife (5′3″) and a 18 month old daughter. With my 2.5″ lift and the 35s I am really glad I got the side steps on my Sahara Unlimited. I still had to add grab handles so my wife can get in easily, and putting my daughter in her car seat is more difficult, but I have no complaints. We go wheeling about twice a month at my local off-road park, and I can tell you, that taking my family along is part of the reason I bought the Unlimited. Trying to take all the gear and my family in my CJ5 is NO FUN AT ALL!
    I haven’t had any engine problems, but my radio has cut out probably three times in the 4 months I’ve had it.

    ALl,
    I have 17″x9″ rims (ProComp 1089)with 5″ backspacing. I don’t do much rock climbing, but I can see where they would rub at full stuff. They stick out of my fenders about three inches on the road.
    I put my spare wheel and tire (35×12.5×17 on 17×9 w/5″BS), on the factory spare mount without any problems. You can still see the third brake light and it doesn’t hit the bumper either. If it had less backspacing I think it would hit the bumper before the gate closes all the way. I don’t have a problem with it getting in the way of the hardtop back window opening either.
    My Gas Mileage hasn’t dropped off as much as thought it would. I am still getting 16-18 MPG according to the onboard. I have the 3.21 gears in still (I am stationed in Germany and need the highway gears for the Autobahn) And the AEM Brute Force intake may be helping out a little too.
    I installed my Teraflex Budget Boost about a month ago and had my first problem yesterday, I was accelerating hard and in a left hand turn and my steering wheel locked to the left. After I stopped I saw my swaybar links had inverted, and my swaybar was blocking my steering linkage. I highly suggest extended swaybar links if you go with the budget boost. It could have been a big problem if I was in traffic.
    I took delivery of my Jeep in December of 06 and had the hardtop on all winter. I had no leaking problems at all. I put the soft top on a few weeks ago and had a leak in the center of the windshield to top seal. I layed the top back and reinstalled it, and haven’t had a leak yet.

  20. Tim Jones April 14th, 2007 8:56 pm

    With the 2.5 BB would you say it handles the same in turns or is worse?
    Thanks
    Tim Jones

  21. wayoflife April 16th, 2007 11:08 am

    Hi Brian,
    1. Absolutely and I do all the time. First with the factory 32’s and then with a set of 35’s.

    2. Nope, none what so ever.

    3. With the proper gearing, the little 3.8L isn’t so bad. I’m running 5.13’s now and have no problems with power. Granted, I’d love to have had the 2.8L diesel if they offered it.

    Eddie

  22. wayoflife April 16th, 2007 11:09 am

    Hey Tim,
    The TeraFlex 2.5″ BB that I installed reused the factory shocks and so to be completely honest, my JK handled pretty much the same.

    Eddie

  23. BillyHoe April 19th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Hey Eddie your the man…. I was thinking of getting this set up for my JK 2 door and was wondering what a 295/75/16 would be like on some MT classics 16×8. This a good tire size for a good mean stance? I live in West Virginia and I cannot have my tires sticking past my flares or the fuzz will pull me over and ticket me for sure! Any ideas on a good stance with about a 33′ tire, THANKS keep up the good work!!

  24. BillyHoe April 19th, 2007 9:10 pm

    BTW with reguards to the last question, how much will MPG suffer?

  25. wayoflife April 20th, 2007 3:12 pm

    Hi BillyHoe, you just want to make sure that the 33″ tall tires are 11″ wide or less or that the back spacing on your wheels are about 5″. This will keep your tires under your flares and you out of trouble.

    As far as MPG goes, it won’t suffer much at all with 33’s and just a bit with 35’s.

    Eddie

  26. Kyle May 2nd, 2007 9:23 pm

    hey I am thinking about doing the 2.5 BB by Teraflex. Do you think it would be wise to get the shocks as well, or to just extend the stock shocks? Also will there be anything else that I will need besides what comes with the kit? And lastly I looked through your instalation steps and it doesn’t look to bad. I am no mechanic though, should I have a professional do it? Any idea what they charge? Thankyou.

  27. wayoflife May 3rd, 2007 7:58 pm

    Hi Kyle,
    If you think you might go taller in the future, I would just stick with the shock extensions for now especially if you like how your Jeep rides now. If you plan on keeping this lift for a long time to come or want to firm up your ride, new shock would be nice to get but only if they are a good set of monotube nitro shocks.

    As far as installation goes, please, it really is as easy as it looks and I would highly recommend you doing the install yourself or have a friend give you a hand. Heck, if you’re in the SoCal area, let me know and I would be more than happy to help you out.

    Sincerely,
    Eddie

  28. Meir May 5th, 2007 1:34 am

    Hi Eddie,
    What is the maximum lift kit that can be installed on the JK without shock adaptors?
    2.5″ seems to me a bit high, so I consider the Daystar 1 3/4″.
    This kit comes without shock adapters, and I wonder if the Factory shocks are long enough.
    Thanks
    Meir

  29. wayoflife May 5th, 2007 8:27 am

    Hi Meir,
    Actually, as you can see in this write-up, I ran the 2.5″ shock adapters with this lift, wheeled it hard and didn’t have any problems.

    Eddie

  30. Carlos May 7th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Hi how’s it going? Your site was a GREAT deal of help to me., thanks! We got away without disconnecting the track bar.. just lowered the entire axel very carefuly and the the front coil springs came out, BUT we had to use coil compressors. and in the rear we lowerd we did not disconnect the axel either but you have to be careful with your ESP cable. We pulled the fasteners off of the frame and that allowed us to lower the axels all the way down. Both coils came out easy and better yet they both went back on easy.. no coil compressors needed.
    But thanks for all the info on your page.

  31. Brian Trimnal May 7th, 2007 11:20 pm

    Hey Eddie,

    What is the largest tire size for the JK without any lift?

  32. Andrew May 8th, 2007 2:30 am

    Hi Eddie,
    I just finished the 2.5″ budget lift this weekend, it went smoothly (I amlost tried to track you down to assist if necessary since I think you and I live near each other in OC :) ) anyways, I have the following honest feedback on the kit. First off, let me say that I am pretty mechanical, have built up a few 4×4 rigs, done some motorcycle restoration etc, but am by no means a pro mechanic so I think these comments should apply to most:
    1. This is a pretty straightforward kit and the instructions on this site are great. Terraflex did try to substitute a new front bumpstop setup on the kit I received that required a drill and tap and although I could’ve done that easily enough, I wanted the true bolt on and a quick call to them had the correct parts shipped out.
    2. Even with the front axle lowered to the point where the brake lines and sensor wires had very little slack, I still needed to use a coil compressor on the front, maybe I could’ve gone a little farther and popped them out, but I didn’t want to risk it. The rears dropped easily enough after loosening one of the sensor wire clips on each side - easy.
    3. The washers shipped by Terraflex for the rear shock extensions didn’t fit over the extension bolts, I looked at the way the upper shock mounts and the original bolts went together and decided to go ahead without the washers (the heads on the hex bolts should have no problem holding the slots), but I will be checking them soon and maybe popping some in.
    4. The rear brake line extender bothers me a little bit, it looks like the inward bend is necessary to protect the line from the sway bar but the lines now seem to rest on the black dust boot on the rear shock. Again, this doesn’t seem to be a big problem as the boot is not a moving part and the shock travel does not seem like it will cause a flex point into the line, but I found any contact unnerving - has anyone had this problem or dealt with it differently? I didn’t want to modify the bracket until I’ve had a chance to check the other moving parts around the lines.
    5. One last thing to watch out for is popping the breather on the rear axle when you lower it - easy enough to pop back on but if you don’t look out for it you’ll miss it.
    All-in-all, this is a straight forward kit, a reasonable day project and the ride is maintained since for all intensive purposes you are keeping the factory coils. It seems to steer about the same and I haven’t notices any excessive bump-steer or anything from the track bar re-centering. I haven’t had it in the dirt yet but will try to get it onto a trail this weekend.
    PS-Eddie, I also ordered the LoD winch bumper through you - hope it ships soon :)

  33. wayoflife May 8th, 2007 10:35 am

    Hi Brian, I have seen guys run 33″ tires without any lift but depending on the make of the tires (not all 33″ tires measure the same), you may need to do a little bit of trimming of your air dam as the tire may rub there at a full turn.

    Hi Andrew, I’m glad to hear the write-up was helpful to you and yes, I do live in Laguna Niguel so if you ever need any help, by all means, please email me and I would be more than happy to offer up my services.

    Eddie :)

  34. jonathan jones May 8th, 2007 11:37 pm

    I am getting ready to install 35/12.5/18 on my stock 18′ rims. do you think i will need spacers?

  35. wayoflife May 9th, 2007 11:16 am

    Hi jonathan, yes, in order to clear the 12.50″ wide tires, you will want a set of 1.5″ wheel spacers.

    Eddie

  36. greg May 24th, 2007 3:01 pm

    Hey WOF, I took your write up and transfered it to a nice PDF with 1 page per step. SOmethin easy to take out to the driveway. Shoot me your e-mail and i will send it to you. You can post it here for others if you like!

  37. Rocky May 24th, 2007 3:36 pm

    I have a 2 door JK Rubicon and I just finished installing the 2.5 BB. The rear axle is not centered due to the lift (repositioning of the rear track bar). Would the rear track bar bracket that Tera-flex sells, required for the their lift that is 4″ or more, would fix the centering issue with this lift?

  38. wayoflife May 29th, 2007 11:51 am

    Hi Rocky,
    Yes, a track bar relocation bracket will help to correct your axle shift but in all honesty, it really isn’t needed.

    Eddie

  39. Michael June 1st, 2007 9:46 pm

    Eddie,

    Great instructions! I do have a couple of questions though.

    1.
    The instructions that come with the lift kit state that the spacer should be added to one side then do it to the other side. Your instructions weren’t specific in this area. Would you recommend removing the shocks and springs on both sides and installing the spacers on both sides at the same time? Or would you recommend installing the spacer and reinstalling the spring and shock before moving to the other side?

    2.
    I haven’t installed equipment on the front yet requiring the 3/4″ leveling spacer; would it be harmful to go ahead and install this spacer while I’m doing this install to save time and effort? After all, it seems like my stock JK Unlimited Sahara is already slightly lower in the front. If I decided to do that (or install it at a later time…) how would it be done? Where is this spacer installed? On top of the 2.5″ spacer?

    Thanks,

    Michael

  40. wayoflife June 1st, 2007 10:05 pm

    Hi Michael,
    1. You need to disconnect your swaybar from the axle, remove the shocks, sway bar links and coils on both sides and then install the new spacers and coils at the same time. If you have an automatic, you may find it necessary to disconnect your front drive shaft from the pinion as well.

    2. You can install the spacers now and at worst, you will be nose high. I would install them on top of the 2.5″ spacers and below the factory rubber isolator. That way they will be hidden from view under the upper spring perch.

    Eddie

  41. Adam June 2nd, 2007 7:37 pm

    Great looking jeep!

    One question, does the driveline angles need to change with the 2.5 lift? Do you get any vibration from the drivelines?

  42. wayoflife June 2nd, 2007 9:38 pm

    Thanks Adam. To answer your question, no, you will not have any driveline vibes due to the new CV style drive shaft Jeep is now using and so your drive line angles will not need to be changed.

    Eddie

  43. steve June 4th, 2007 12:04 pm

    WOL,

    On step 19 above, you mentioned the torque for the front shock mount is 20 ft. lbs. I just wanted to make sure about this since another source mentioned 56 ft. lbs.

    thanks for your help

  44. wayoflife June 4th, 2007 12:11 pm

    Hi Steve, you are correct, I made a typo and it should have read 56 ft. lbs. just like step 47 states. I will correct this now, thanks for bringing this to my attention.

    Eddie

  45. steve June 4th, 2007 12:58 pm

    thanks WOL… i just hope i can make it home from work tonight with it :D…. 20 ft. lbs should hold up for a while right?

  46. wayoflife June 4th, 2007 1:51 pm

    Oh yeah, it shouldn’t go anywhere and you’ll be fine :)

    Eddie

  47. steve June 4th, 2007 2:25 pm

    good to know :D

  48. steve June 5th, 2007 3:55 pm

    one more question WOL,

    Yesterday, i was checking everything to make sure they’re all tight. When i got to the rear shocks, when i tried to “Yank” them a little bit, there was a little “Play” on the body of the shocks (though not much, but you can feel it move around a bit). I checked all bolts, and they’re very tight (according to the torque spec).

    Is this normal? (most of the play is near the top shock mount)

  49. wayoflife June 5th, 2007 4:34 pm

    Steve, do you have new aftermarket shocks or are you using the extension brackets? Either way, are you talking about shifting of the shock in its bushing or within the shock can itself?

  50. steve June 5th, 2007 5:26 pm

    I have a new shocks (but i used stock bar pin), and yes, i was referring to an ever so slightly shifting of shock in its bushing. I have to really yank the shocks to do this.

    I don’t feel anythin weird during my drive though, both in the city and highway. Maybe i’m just paranoid :D

  51. wayoflife June 5th, 2007 6:33 pm

    LOL!! What you are feeling is normal. Unless you are using a set of bar pin eliminators, there will be some movement in the bushings.

    Eddie

  52. Steve June 5th, 2007 8:19 pm

    Thanks….I’m used to doing suspension work on hondas/acuras…and there is usually no movement whatsoever :D…

    Thanks again eddie

  53. HatchetMan June 8th, 2007 9:05 pm

    You mention the use of (although not required) a longer set of sway bar links (or disconnects up front if you don’t have a Rubicon), front adjustable track bar and rear track bar relocation bracket. I saw the front adjustable track bar and rear track bar relocation bracket on the teraflex site but no longer set of sway bar links. Any idea where to pick those up? Estimate cost of the add-ons since I can not find them priced? (No Rubi here, just a plain X Unlimited) Thanks a bunch!

  54. wayoflife June 9th, 2007 2:54 am

    Hey HatchetMan,
    Hmmm, I would think they sell them even though they are not on their website and I would imagine they wouldn’t be too expensive. I would try giving them a call or a vendor that carries TeraFlex products and ask them.

    Eddie

  55. Sam in CO June 10th, 2007 1:16 am

    Wow cool…always looking for cheap and easy! Question…if a guy was to do this 2.5″ lift, and stuff some 35″ tires on the stock rims under there…what width tire would I want to stick with in order to keep from rubbing? I’m talking on a Unlimited Rubicon now…THANKS!

    -Sam

  56. Dustin June 12th, 2007 10:35 am

    With the 2.5″ boost, do you know if it affects the factory warrenty? I’ve heard when you lift a vihicle it voids the warrenty. Do you know if this is true? And is there a difference in the factory suspinsons of the X, sahara, and rubicon?

  57. wayoflife June 12th, 2007 1:44 pm

    Hi Sam,
    If you’re planning on running 35″ tires on your factory wheels, you really should consider getting a set of 1.5″ wheel spacers as most of the 35″ tires I know of measure 12.50 in width or wider which is too much.

    Dustin,
    Lifting your Jeep alone will not void your warranty. Now, if you break a factory part that can be directly traced to the lift itself then that part will not be warrantied (i.e. if you damage a stock shock it will not be replaced).

    Eddie

  58. oldbob June 18th, 2007 1:48 pm

    Howdy!

    Might want to get a cold one before reading this novel/email… BTW, do you know what impact 35″ tires have on the odo/speedo and ESP? Is it a reprogram or a part change on the 07?

    Had the TFlx 2.5 BB Lift with a BDS TrackBar relocation bracket installed (although, the kit did not, as listed on the box, come with the rear stock shock relocation hardware and so shocks had to be mounted in orig location (thus: NO hard WHEEL’n) until the ext hardware comes in. I had RubiconExpress longer braided steel brake lines installed too. Even with stock Rubi tires and wheels, lifting makes it look better to my eye. Who would’ve thunk that 2.5 inches would look so much taller.

    After the lift install,I drove home the long way and everything seemed to be in good order… that is, the same as stock. Curiously, there was more noticeable tread/road noise off of the stock tires… tires exposed/not corralled as much??? … or worse, some slight misalignment? My imagination?

    Still, I was really impressed that everything seemed so similar to stock as you have mentioned (my assessment too)…

    HOWEVER, the next morning I had AEV Argent Pintlers and 35″ Toyos installed and HEY, on the way home I notice some right-drift… no pulling (well maybe a little right pull under braking), not any more bump-steer than stock, but a little right-drift that, while not overwhelming, is noticeable… truly there… just enough to say DANG, it’s not perfect.!

    In what little road time I’ve put on it, I seem to, as mentioned in a jeepfan blog, want to hold the steering wheel ever-so-slightly to the left to counter the right-drift. It’s not crabbing and it’s pretty mild, but I want to be sure it isn’t something I have to live with or pay for in tire wear or worse down the road or that will spoil it for wifey when she drives it.

    Maybe, the ride home over intentional ruts and bumps in the road to “shake things loose” and/or the jacking up etc. for tire installation, tweaked the lift tech’s alignment. I’ll be having the lift tech look into this when I go back within the next week or so for my follow-up/check and we’ll see what we’ll see.

    To repeat, this wasn’t obvious to me until after the tire install, then it was immediately and still noticeable/obvious, although mild.

    Also, in addition to the drift-right condition, I now belong to the select group of lifted/big tire 4×4 ‘07 Unlimiteds that have the over-active ESP thing going around on/off ramp curves. I was looking for it before the lift and after the lift and didn’t get it with the stock 32s, but it does happen now (ESP kicks in - braking? I think - and the “skidding vehicle” icon on the dash flashes until we straighten out)… not too bad if you’re prepared for it [which may NOT include wives taking it out without training :-) ]

    Like you have mentioned to check, Eddie; I’m hoping it is as simple as the steering wheel, thus the steering inputs to ESP, being a little off-center and that by centering it up (again?… as you say, it might take a couple stabs at it.) might work… possibly a reflash of the ESP if the dealer is willing after the mods.

    So maybe the tires changed or added error to the wheel centering, or the action against the vehicle [jacking etc.] tweaked it or the alignment.

    PS
    There is/are a sensor(s) in the steering column (something called a CLOCKSPRING) that report (I’m guessing here: the steering wheel position/thus driver’s steering input?) to the ESP etc. So maybe if/when the steering wheel is off-center, mechanically the vehicle wants to go off center and maybe electronically it sends funky inputs to ESP on long big radius curves????

    The reason I know about the “clockspring” is that my rig had a lot-boy break a key off in the ignition and they tore the steering column down to fix it… afterward my “ESP” (not skidding icon) dash indicator warning came on and stayed on (and I think ESP was disabled.. but not sure) every time I started and drove it for a couple weeks before they replaced that “clockspring”.

    Thoughts??? advise?
    Regards,
    oldbob

  59. chrisedwa June 23rd, 2007 10:42 pm

    I just finished installing the teraflex 2.5″ budget boost on my 2 door rubi and wow what a nice kit, it really gives the Jeep a nice look even with the stock Rubi tires. Also I think they have changed the kit since when alot of you guys installed it. In addition to the parts mentioned in the directions on this site (which were very helpfull btw) I also recieved a pair of longer rear sway bar links. Once installed the stock rear sway bar links go up front to replace the short stock front links. Quite a genious idea although looks like its only with the new kits? so for anyone with short links I would recomend getting the longer rear sway bar links and put your stock links up front.

    Chris

  60. wayoflife June 25th, 2007 11:26 am

    Hi Chris, yes, this is a new feature for this kit and for those of you who have Rubicon’s, I would highly recommend that you pick up these links. You can buy them from Northridge4×4 or directly from TeraFlex and they only cost $15.

  61. schwarzjp June 27th, 2007 7:58 pm

    The kit has changed slightly since the writeup. Besides the addition of the sway bay links for the rear, the rear bump stop extensions have changed also.

    The frame-mounted rear bump stop extensions are angled on one end–this needs to face the front of the vehicle. If they’re installed facing the rear, the bump stop will make contact with a bolt well before the top bump stop touches the bottom.

    I hope this helps someone avoid the big gash in their bump stop extension like I now have. The irony is I took to a 4WD shop to have it done so it would be done right. They didn’t re-install the factory coil spacers either, which clearly listed, even in the hard-to-read/see TeraFlex instructions.

  62. RotorHead June 28th, 2007 11:00 pm

    Thanks for the instructions Eddie. I just finished mine. So far no ESP problems.

  63. JKing July 1st, 2007 4:38 am

    Hi, I’ve already installed “Teraflex 2.5″ BB with Shocks” lift kit, and it’s kind of too late to ask…

    BUT, how are those Teraflex shocks that come with BB lift kit compare to stock Rubi shocks (red ones)? I believe the TF shocks are 9550 (VSS gas shocks).

    I was wondering I should have kept the Rubi shocks and got the adopters instead…

    The ride is basically the same. But, I was wondering how durable/strong those Teraflex shocks are… Are their shocks known to be good quality?

  64. wayoflife July 1st, 2007 10:58 am

    Hi JKing, going with new longer shocks is always the way to go and if they are the TeraFlex 9550’s, you did well. :)

    Eddie

  65. Bill July 1st, 2007 7:20 pm

    Hi everyone, just has this installed Saturday, have the 35s ProComp Xtreme A/Ts on ProComp Wheels 17×8. One Question, when I turn all the way to the right or left the wheels rub the control arms, any suggestions???

  66. Dubya July 1st, 2007 9:55 pm

    Hey man thanks for this write up!!! I just finished mine today and man, it looks sweet. =) There is no way I could have done it with the Teraflex instructions alone- they were a JOKE! WTF! Mine came with the new rear sway bar links- very nice. The Rubi looks a million time better now, gotta get me some bigger tires now. Much appreciated, thanks for the time and effort!

  67. wayoflife July 2nd, 2007 1:09 am

    Hey Bill, your tire is rubbing because your axle shifted over when you installed your lift. The only way to help this out is to install an adjustable front track bar. Or, you could always install a couple washers on the steer stops.

    Hey Dubya, I’m glad to hear my write-up was able to help you out :)

    Eddie

  68. Dave August 8th, 2007 12:16 pm

    Eddie, I know you get this constantly, but thanks for the write-up! I’ve put 32″ BFG All Terrains on my 4-door JK. They look so much better than the stock tires. I know you mentioned the warranty above on June 12th, but I was wondering if you know any more detail about trouble with warranty work on a lifted vehicle. I only want to lift 2″ or 2.5″ to give a little more clearance with the new tires, although I realize it isn’t necessary. My service advisor told me that lifting Jeep would essentially void coverage on most of the powertrain components. He said that if something happens to the tranny, for example, the first thing any service department asks is, “Did you modify the vehicle with a lift?” And he said that the repairs would not be covered under the warranty.

    Can you shed a little more light on this for me?

    Thanks very much,
    Dave

  69. wayoflife August 9th, 2007 1:33 am

    Hi Dave, in all honesty, I would find myself a different dealership to work on my Jeep. I broke the rear locker in my highly modified JK sitting on a 3″ lift and 35″ tires and had it replaced under warranty as the service advisor was able to determine that my lift, tires and or new gears were not the reason for it breaking. If your dealer will void any drive train work without even giving your Jeep a good look to see what the real cause your problem was, they’re a dealership to avoid. But, that’s just my 2¢ and the experiences I have had.

    Eddie

  70. TSmith0820 August 9th, 2007 3:58 pm

    I just installed my Teraflex 2.5 BB on my 2 door X. I love it. Thanks for the great write up.

    Ty

  71. wayoflife August 9th, 2007 4:03 pm

    Hey Ty, congradulations on your new lift. I’m glad to know my write-up was helpful to you :)

    Eddie

  72. SeaBee August 13th, 2007 9:27 pm

    when you go up in size of tires frm say 30 to 33 do you need to buy a new sensoir or do they just do a flash to keep your speedo and odometer aqurate ?And if I add a new bumper front and rear to keep the 2.5 hight will I need to add spacers or can I just get a heaver shock that will give me the same as factory ride and matian the lift ?

  73. Steve August 20th, 2007 7:12 pm

    Hey Eddie,

    Does the Teraflex 2.5″ BB w/shocks come with twin tube shocks?

    Would you recommend the twin tube shocks or the mono shocks?

    And lastly, if you could get the Teraflex 2.5″ BB w/ twin tube shocks or the Rubicon Express 2″ BB w/mono shocks for the same price, which would you recommend?

    Thanks, Steve

  74. wayoflife August 21st, 2007 2:00 am

    Hey SeaBee, when you install bigger tires, your speedometer will be off unless you have your computer calibrated to match the new size. The only problem is that your dealer can only calibrate your computer to match up to a 32″ tire. And, at the moment, there is no way to work around this. As far as adding bumpers go and a winch goes, they will cause your suspension to sag a bit but installing new shock will not change your ride height. To fix the slight sag, you will need to either stack spacers or get taller coils.

    Hey Steve, honestly, I’m not sure what kind of shocks they come with as I just got mine with shock extensions. However, if you could choose, I would highly recommend getting monotube nitro shocks as they typically proved a much better ride on and off the trail. As far as which kit I would go with, a budget boost is pretty much a budget boost and if you’re looking for a bit more height, I would go with the TeraFlex kit. Heck, if you have a Rubicon, I would still get this kit with the shock extensions as the factory Rubi shocks are really nice.

    Eddie

  75. Dave August 25th, 2007 9:41 pm

    Hi Eddie,

    Thanks for all the work you are doing with the site, and thanks for replying to my questions regarding the warranty and the statements made by my service writer. I have since installed this lift and took your advice to another member and installed the relocation bracket for the rear. The lift is awesome, and I honestly think my JK handles better than it did prior to installing the lift–less sway on and off the road. We took the JK to the Adirondacks last week for a week of wheeling and had a blast. I also added KC Slimlites with windshield mounts. It’s nothing like your rig, but I’m having a great time. I’ll put some pics on the forum, if that’s alright.

    Anyway, thanks for the advice, all your efforts with the site, and for your great write-ups. You have helped out tremendously in my decision making and in the installation process.

    Best regards,
    Dave

  76. wayoflife August 28th, 2007 2:59 pm

    Hi Dave, I’m really glad to know that I was able to help you out and that you are happy with your lift. Thanks for the feedback and if there’s anything I can do for you, please don’t hesitate to ask.

    Eddie

  77. Jared September 3rd, 2007 6:04 am

    wayoflife! Your the man for this write up! aha… i will be using it when i eventually install my 2.5 teraflex bb. The sway bar links need to be installed on the inside in the rear now correct? And then the old rear links move up front exactly how the old fronts were… correct? Im just trying to visualise this with out being under the jeep or looking at a picture.

    Also i bought some 285/70/17 BFG Mud Terrains that are going on my stock sahara 17’s. I believe that makes them 11.5 wide? Think ill have any issues with rubbing at full turn or getting the spare on my mount without spacers on either? When i install it i want to knock it all out at once =)

    I may even give in and get a relocation bracket and adj sways…

  78. Jared September 3rd, 2007 6:12 am

    ps. i didnt even think about this… the front would be done and lifted before i even get to the rear following your steps. How involved will it be to go back up front to install the rear links up there?

  79. wayoflife September 4th, 2007 3:24 pm

    Hi Jared, you only need to install the new rear links if you have a Rubicon and yes, if you still have factory wheels, you will need to install the links on the inside of the axle mount as the bolt head that attaches to the sway bar will make contact with your factory wheels.

    Regarding your new tires, you should be okay with them but yes, you may see some minor rubbing on the air dam at a full turn. Also, you shouldn’t have any problems mounting your spare.

    As far as installing your rear links up front goes, it is actually easier to install links in general with your Jeep on the ground so no, you won’t have any problems.

    Eddie

  80. xleatherneck September 9th, 2007 3:11 pm

    Hi wayoflife,

    Thanks for the great website, articles, images and write-ups!

    Did you ever install the front spacers like you mentioned above, before you installed the larger lift? What are your comments/suggestions if you did?

  81. wayoflife September 10th, 2007 2:17 am

    Hey xleatherneck, I upgraded my lift to a Full Traction 3″ Ultimate Lift and got HD front coils with it. They leveled out my Jeep nicely even with a heavy steel front bumper and WARN PowerPlant winch.

    Eddie

  82. Rob September 12th, 2007 6:51 pm

    Eddie, I have the JK Unlimited Rubicon. I want to lift it, but since my last jeep was a lifted YJ, I love my new ride. Since you have had both the 2.5 and 3 inch lifts, which gives the best ride. We tow it and use it mostly on fire trails, desert and mountain trails and about 50% of the time on the street. The wifey made me get the new jeep because she would’nt ride in the old one any more, boy was I smart, but I do love the ride and I want to keep the best of both worlds. Thanks, Rob

  83. wayoflife September 13th, 2007 10:40 am

    Hi Rob, If you’re happy with the ride that your Rubicon offers now, I would recommend just getting the TeraFlex 2.5″ BD as with it, your ride will not change at all and it’s cheap. :)

    Eddie

  84. Rob September 14th, 2007 6:56 pm

    Thanks very much. Rob

  85. JKFreek September 29th, 2007 8:36 pm

    Hey WOF, Wheres the best spot to buy the BB from Teraflex? Anyone have a good URL for online purchase? I have to get shipping to Canada as well.

    Hey WOF, thanks a lot for the write up on this, It’s answered a LOT of questions I’ve had!

  86. wayoflife September 30th, 2007 1:25 am

    You can buy this kit from 4WD, Northridge4×4 or Quadratec. Just find and click on the banner to the right and you should get to where you want to be :)

    Eddie

  87. IADVENTURE October 8th, 2007 2:44 am

    Hey Eddie,
    I am planning to install my 2.5 BB on my new 08 Rubi this week, I live in San Clemente. A couple questions:

    you mentioned above to somone that if they where in so cal you would consider helping, San clemente close to where you live by chance??

    ANy more word on ESP problems? Know how to adjust the steering back anyways?

    Will I be able to get along alright without wheel spacers with bfg 35×12.5’s on stock rims?

    ALso any extra install steps on a rubi rather than your sahara?

    One more, know of any affordable jeep groups in so cal I should consider joining and can you recomend any trails?

    This has been a great source of info!! Thanks so much!

    ~iadventure

  88. IADVENTURE October 9th, 2007 12:23 am

    one more thing, did you install the swaybar extenders?

  89. wayoflife October 9th, 2007 9:49 am

    Hey IADVENTURE, I live in Laguna Niguel and would love to help you get your lift installed. Just send me an email at: eddie@project-jk.com and we’ll set up a time to do it. :)

    Regarding your other questions, I never had any ESP problems with the TeraFlex 2.5″ BB and would think you will be good to go as well. As far as running a 12.50 wide tire on stock rims go, you will need to get a set of 1.5″ wheel spacers to prevent any rubbing issues. BTW, I too have a Rubicon and not a Sahara and the only other step there you will have is the installation of the new longer rear sway bar links and the installation of the factory rear links up front.

    Now, as far as Jeep groups go, please join us on our runs. We go out 2-3 times a month with JK owners of all build sizes and skill levels and we’d love to have you come along. Check here for upcoming events:

    http://www.jk-forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45

    Please contact me by email and we’ll get you taken care of :)
    Eddie

  90. iadventure October 11th, 2007 3:52 pm

    Hey Eddie,
    I just installed my BB 2.5 lift yesterday. YOu had mentioned that you live in Laguna Niguel. Could I drop by to borrow your ACCU PRO to calibrate my 35in tires?
    Thanks,
    Troy

  91. Kirk October 12th, 2007 12:39 am

    Eddie,

    I installed a 2.5″ Terra Flex Suspension Lift with extended shocks on my 2007 4door Jeep. It is a X model not a rubicon. I kept my stock wheels and placed BFG AT/KO tiers that are 315/70/17 and they fit ok but when I turn all the way right or left they rub on the inside of the wheel against the front cross member bar can you tell me if you feel the 1″ Terra Flex spacers would help stop that problem

  92. Jon October 15th, 2007 2:06 pm

    Eddie, I have a JK sitting on 32s right now and I want to lift it for both clearance and appearance purposes. I was thinking of the 2.5 teraflex as you’ve installed but I was wondering if the 32 inch tires would look weird and/or not be efficient with that size lift. Should I just go with a smaller lift adn keep my 32s (which work fine for what I do) or go with 2.5 inch and bigger tires. Thanks!

  93. wayoflife October 17th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Hi Jon, no, it won’t look weird at all. To see some pics of what it will look like, click on this link:

    http://www.project-jk.com/wp-gallery2.php?g2_itemId=20455

    Eddie :)

  94. Andy October 24th, 2007 5:06 pm

    Hey Eddie, first off I’d like to say “Thanks” as I used your walkthrough on my laptop in the garage to install this lift by myself yesterday. I added a ProComp front adj track bar and the BDS relocation bracket for the rear. It took me a bit longer than the 4-5 hours generally given but it was fun.

    I wanted to comment on a couple of findings:

    First off (on the X model anyway) you do not have to disconnect the drive shaft. There is a bracket held by 2 bolts underneath that impedes the shaft from lowering past a certain point. It is easy to disconnect and allows for all of the clearance necessary.

    The other thing is that if the BDS rear trackbar bracket is used then the links cannot be “moved” to the insides because the passenger side link will hit it.

    Hope there is a way to extend this information to other users as the driveshaft alternative could save a lot of unnecessary work (I tried to disconnect it and had a heckuva time before looking for an alternative!). Thanks again. I’d never have tried this mod on my own without your write-up!

  95. JKFreek November 5th, 2007 7:55 pm

    Hey WOL, I’ve got a 4 door Rubi, and just had the BB installed. The garage that installed it for me said that they had to remove the rear sway bar, in order to prevent the bar from rubbing with my stock BFG 32’s. What shoudl I be going back and telling these guys. B/C without the swaybar in the rear my JK moves around on the road a lot. It’s not a huge difference but enough for me to express concern.

    Thanks WOL,
    killer write up as well.

  96. wayoflife November 5th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Hi JKFreek, you absolutely NEED the rear sway bar and links installed on your JK in order to keep it driving safely. If you cannot get the new longer links to install on the inside of the mounts, I would recommend that you just install your factory front and rear links back on your Jeep. On pavement, you will be just fine and off road, you should be fine for the most part as well. Trust me, I ran my JK like this for quite some time without any problems. However, if you can afford it, I would highly recommend that you either get new wheels with less back spacing or 1.5″ wheel spacers. This will give you the room you need to reinstall your new links.

    Eddie

  97. JKFreek November 5th, 2007 10:55 pm

    Sounds good. I’m new to the whole backspacing thing and what it means exactly. However in getting new wheels, would a wider wheel give it enough space? As for new longer links, what links would they be that would solve my problem with the stock wheels. I’d love to buy them I just need to know what ones to get. Its just the rear sway bar that is off, the front is still on.

    I’d love to be able to run the stock wheels, if theres an alternate sway bar or links or whatnot (NEWWWWBIEEE!!!) for the rear.

    Thanks again

  98. JKFreek November 6th, 2007 12:40 am

    Hey WOL, to add to my previous post, if I install the linkson the opposite side of the sway bar and axle mount should this solve my problem? And do you think I could get away with running a wider tire. Looking at going to 285-70-R17 on the stock wheels.

  99. wayoflife November 6th, 2007 3:49 am

    Hey JKFreek, you can learn all about back spacing here:
    http://www.jk-forum.com/showpost.php?p=211274&postcount=3

    AS far as a wider wheel goes, the diameter of it shouldn’t change anything other than where your links will rub and physical width of it may make things worse. Factory back spacing is 6.25″ and you will want something closer to 4″ in order to clear things with room to spare. 1.5″ wheel spacers will help you achieve this.

    Eddie

  100. Corey November 6th, 2007 6:49 pm

    Hey, this is a great write up. I just have one question, I am going to order 37 14.00 tires, and I was going to keep my stock jk 17 inch wheels. I already have a 6 inch lift and 1.5 inch spacers. Am I going to have any problem running that wide of a tire on my stock wheels?

  101. Corey November 6th, 2007 6:56 pm

    Oh and also, will my new 37 14.00 inch tires stick out as much, with the 1.5 spacers, as they would with say 10 inch wide rims?

  102. wayoflife November 7th, 2007 1:43 am

    14″ is a lot of width and in all honesty, I have a hard time believing that you will be able to run them with just 1.5″ wheel spacers and stock wheels. As far as the 10″ wheels go, they will not help things.

    Eddie

  103. Corey November 7th, 2007 2:23 pm

    Ok, well what about 12.50 wide tires? Do you know of anyone who has used them on there stock wheel? Do you think I will have any problems?

  104. wayoflife November 7th, 2007 2:57 pm

    Yes. 12.50 on stock wheels can cause your rear sway bar links to make contact with the side walls and a lot of rubbing up front when turning. If you want to keep your factory wheels, you will need wheel spacers.

    Eddie

  105. Corey November 7th, 2007 4:07 pm

    Ok, well will I be ok if I get 1.5 inch spacers?

  106. wayoflife November 7th, 2007 7:02 pm

    Yes, you should.

    Eddie

  107. Corey November 8th, 2007 7:34 pm

    Ok Thanks for all of your help. I just decided to go with 20×8.5 rims, and I am still going to use 1.5 spacers. How will I be on clearance with a 6 inch lift, and 35×13.50×20 tires?

  108. Corey November 8th, 2007 7:34 pm

    I’m sorry I meant 36×13.50×20 tires.

  109. wayoflife November 9th, 2007 1:27 pm

    With 6″ of lift, you will have plenty of clearance. :)

    Eddie

  110. joe November 10th, 2007 5:31 pm

    hello, I plan on ordering those same rims, but 4wd.com told me that the stock 255/70/18 tires (sahara 08) will not fit on the pro comp 18 x 9 wheels… is this correct? I was then looking at the procomp all terrain as 80% of my driving will be daily and 20% offroad…(not as extreme as u guys) they recommended with those same rims 18 x 9 with 285/60/18…what is the biggest tire i can go with with stock setup without rubbing etc.. will i notice a big handling issue? also i do not know if i can have a lift as i have a meyers snow plow for it in the winter time? thanks and sorry i am a newbie to the jeep world

  111. wayoflife November 13th, 2007 6:37 pm

    A 9″ wide wheel is a bit wide for factory tires and the ones they’ve recommended might be a better fit. You should not experience any handling issues with them.

    Eddie

  112. Tee November 13th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Eddie,
    Love the website, made me change my mind from buying an old tj for fun to going all out and getting a new unlimited Rubicon. Just had the TF budget boost and 35″ toyo open country on 17″ procomp wheels installed by a very reputable dealer that is known for doing a lot of modifications and not screwing people on warranty issues. Bottom line, the jeep pulls to the right, and seems to be more noticeable at lower speeds (weird), not nearly as bad on highway. Took it back and they recentered the steering wheel, which seems to help a little, but definately still pulls. Any suggestions? would rear location bracket actually help. I’m concerned of wearing these expensive tires! Also, is it normal to experience a mild vibration when first accelerating from dead stop (0-5mph) and when slowing down to under 5 mph? Thanks!!

  113. Tee November 14th, 2007 12:38 am

    sorry meant rear track bar bracket

  114. wayoflife November 14th, 2007 12:15 pm

    Hi Tee,
    Although both your front and rear axles will have shifted a bit due to the lack of adjustable track bars or relocation brackets, it shouldn’t cause your Jeep to drift like this as they are ultimately still running parallel to each other. Have you checked your tire pressure to make sure they are running the same? Also, have you done any wheeling prior to installing this lift? Could be something got bent ever so slightly and now that you are running bigger tires, the condition is being pronounced.

    Eddie

  115. Tim November 16th, 2007 1:46 pm

    Eddie
    Just got my new BB lift. It came with what i assume are the new rear sway bar links. However, the instructions are for the older version and make no mention of the new links. What part of the install changes with the new links.
    Thanks

  116. Michael November 16th, 2007 1:59 pm

    Eddie,
    We are a Jeep dealer and I saw the picture of your Jeep(awesome) and I want to duplicate it and still have it as an affordable package. The questions I have are as follows:
    1. If I keep wheels tires lift etc… is there any difference between an x package and a rubicon.(upfit wise).
    2. Automatic or stick. Will I definitely need to regear it/if so what gears do you recommend.
    3. Do I need wheel spacers? Will I need different shocks?
    Thanks for all your the info you are sharing.

    Michael

  117. wayoflife November 19th, 2007 12:40 am

    Hi Tim, all you need to do is remove your factory rear links and install them up front. Then, install these new links in the rear.

    Eddie

  118. Tim November 19th, 2007 6:25 pm

    Thanks. Got the kit installed and it looks great. I believe you did a write up on a rear track bar bracket. I can’t find it so if you could can you tell me the manufacturer of the bracket you used it would be great and if possible a link to the article.
    Thanks
    Tim

  119. Tim November 19th, 2007 6:41 pm

    I stand corrected. You did not do the write up on the tarck bar bracket.It was done by Jeepfan.com. Are you familiar witht the write up? Do you have any info about whether I should install it or not. I did notice my rear end is now about 1/2″ over to the right(as you look from the rear).

  120. Carl November 21st, 2007 1:04 pm

    I was just about convinced to buy the 2.5 BB kit until I started reading about the rear axle alignment problem and pulling to the right. I think I’ll wait a bit until ALL the bugs are worked out before buying it. I don’t want to wear down my new tires prematurely.

    Good web site, thanks for all the input.

  121. wayoflife November 22nd, 2007 11:45 am

    Hi Tim, This lift does not require a track bar relocation bracket and the shift is completely normal and will not be a problem for you. But, if you really feel the need for one, I would recommned that you install an adjustable one up front and a relocation bracket in the rear that attaches to the frame and NOT the axle. Axle mounted brackets have been known to break the factory mount off.

    Hi Carl, the axle shift is not isolated to just the rear axle but rather will occur on your front as well. This is unavoidable with with fixed lenght track bars like your Jeep has from the factory. However, this is hardly what I would call a “problem” or a “bug” and the only thing you would need to fix it is the addition of an adjustable front and rear track bar. As far as pulling to the right goes, the axle shift should not be the cause of this and especially not just because the rear is shifted over nor should it cause premature tire wear.

    Eddie

  122. Steve November 24th, 2007 7:33 pm

    Eddie,

    I’ve got an ‘07 Rubicon 2dr. I am planning on getting the TF 2.5″BB. I was also looking into adding the 3/4″ leveling spacers for the front end as I have a winch mounted in Pure Jeep front stubby bumper and would like it be more level. I noticed that you have suggested placing the leveling spacers above the BB spacers. My question is: will I need to worry about any drive-train angles with the installation of both? Also would a 1″ body lift cause any problems? –Steve

  123. wayoflife November 26th, 2007 12:41 pm

    Nope, you shouldn’t have any driveline problems with this setup. :)

    Eddie

  124. Jake November 26th, 2007 4:04 pm

    Awesome! Thanks again for all your help Eddie!

  125. David November 28th, 2007 9:18 am

    Hi Eddie,
    I was wondering if installing this kit would void any factory or dealer warranty that I have. And also, how far do the axels shift? is it noticeable? Thanks,
    David

  126. eQ November 30th, 2007 10:33 pm

    Hi Eddie

    debating b/t the fj cruiser leaning mostly to the wrangler cuz i like the look better but its less power. i want to get the sahara and want to keep the stock look but raised with the 18inch stock wheels what size tires would ur recommend was thinking 33′ without rubbing or problems with the 2.5 lift. or would u suggest going for a 3 inch lift instead to obtain this look http://www.project-jk.com/wp-gallery2.php?g2_itemId=10587 and go with 35s.. Im really wanting to just obtaining a stock look with a little beef….dont want look to extreme and to high….to stop me from going into parking structures

    secondly i know once lifted the JK will operate slower…. any suggestion and thoughts of regearing over supercharging to retain power from lifting….. thanks please let me know

  127. wayoflife December 1st, 2007 11:37 am

    Hi David,
    No, installing this lift will not void your warranty unless your dealer can prove that whatever break your are seeking to have fixed was directly related to what you installed. As far as the axle shift goes, it is very slight and in my opinion, not noticable at all - you would have to know to look for it to see it.

    Hi eQ,
    33″ tires is a great size to go with for what you want and because the Sahara’s come with 32″ tires from the factory, the difference in size will not be enough to make a noticable difference in power. But, if you are looking for a bit more pep anyway, you might consider having a set of 4.56 gears installed.

    Eddie

  128. David December 3rd, 2007 9:17 am

    thanks for the answer earlier,
    Just a couple more clarifications, I have an 08′ 2dr X, are there any differences in the install from an 07′ Ive seen alot of lift kits that appear to be 07′ only. Also do I need to swap out my sway bar links with the ones in the kit or is that only for rubicons. Thanks for your help. Your site is the best!,
    David

  129. wayoflife December 3rd, 2007 11:58 am

    There are no differences and you should be just fine with this kit. As far as the links go, you will be fine using your factory links. Rubicon’s need the swap as the short factory links can cause issues when disconnected.

    Eddie

  130. miket@teterop.com December 6th, 2007 12:50 pm

    The red 4 door jk in way of lifes email ,looks like it was at a show. Any idea on set of,looks like 18 inch wheels,does it use spacers? what size tires

  131. wayoflife December 7th, 2007 10:43 am

    I’m sorry but what red 4-door are you refering to?

    Eddie

  132. Sam Blair December 10th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Eddie;
    Thanks for the detailed write-up. I just completed the lift you made it go much smoother with the tool listing and steps. I installed it on an 08 red rock Sahara. The only thing I did different was I dropped the skid-plate instead of disconnecting the drive shaft and i installed Teraflex shocks. It was a little tight on the front end but the spring went in without compressing. It took me about 4 1/2 hours. Again a big thanks!

    Sam

  133. wayoflife December 11th, 2007 11:58 am

    Hey Sam, glad to hear my write-up helped out. Regarding the skid, yeah, that is a step that I’ve included in subsequent write-ups and will most likely update this one with it now.

    Eddie

  134. miket@teterop.com December 13th, 2007 2:21 pm

    eddie: i asked about the red 4door/ it was in EQs question on 11/30/07 regarding 33s or 35s and the look he wanted.
    I wondered if you new the lift and tires size on that jeep. sorry i am new!

  135. mudogg December 16th, 2007 4:07 pm

    Eddie;
    Excellently detailed write-up it made for an easy and quick instal. I ended up adding 1.5″ spacers and have now added 305 65/18 BFG ATs. What a ride!I cannot believe the added hight with a simple 2.5″! It sure is nice in the 12″ inches of snow that we have received. Thanks for your help!

  136. tom December 24th, 2007 3:47 am

    dude! getting my kit tomorrow. i’ll be sending you an email for help if i have problems! :)
    4dr X…
    merry xmas!

    tom
    san diego, ca

  137. wayoflife December 24th, 2007 4:13 am

    Excellent! By all means, please do let me know if you have any questions.

    Eddie :)

  138. Eric January 6th, 2008 10:35 am

    Eddie,

    I could not have done it without it. I installed the 2.5 BB yesterday by myself. I love it. I bought a set of shocks as well. Wow, does it handle better. Not all the bouncing around that I had in the past. I did not have to adjust the steering wheel or take the drive shaft off (lucky I guess). The steering wheel stayed perfect center still. I printed off your write-up and pictures and inserted them in a binder use in the garage. Your guidance was great.

    Thx.

  139. wayoflife January 7th, 2008 12:07 am

    Hey Eric, I’m glad to hear my write-up was able to help you out.

    Eddie :)

  140. JR January 8th, 2008 5:40 pm

    I am a new jeeper and reading all posted is great info. I have a question about the budget lift. I recently had put a 2.5 inch boost/lift on my 2008 Wrangler unlimited X and was wondering if the same tire sizing applies the one lifted in this article that is a Rubicon?

    Thanks

  141. wayoflife January 9th, 2008 10:37 am

    Hi JR, yes, you should be able to run a 33″ tire without any problems and as large as a 35″ with only minor rubbing up front at a full stuff.

    Eddie

  142. RubiRedJK January 11th, 2008 5:02 pm

    Eddie,
    I have an ‘07 Rubicon JK and I am looking at the 2.5″ TF BB. I read above about the additional sway bar end links being included now, but can’t see any mention of them on any supplier sites. I guess I need to check with the site to see if they are included in their kits? Having said that, will I need them on my Rubicon?

    Also after my stock 32’s wear out I will probably move up to 35’s. Will a 12.5″ wide tire fit on the stock Rubi wheel? I know I will need 1.5″ spacers on the stock wheels or new wheels with 4.5″ backspacing. Will I have some rub at full flex regardless? My front air dam has graciously “uninstalled” itself, so I guess that just leaves the control arms and fenders in the way.

    Thanks and I really appreciate your help and write-ups!

  143. wayoflife January 11th, 2008 7:59 pm

    Yes, the tire will fit great but as you have mentioned, you will need to run wheel spacers to make them work. As far as rubbing goes, you will see some minor rubbing up front at a full flex and a turn.

    Eddie

  144. RubiRedJK January 11th, 2008 9:16 pm

    Eddie,
    One more thing, I just wanted to check if I will need to install the sway bar end links on the front and rear on my Rubicon?
    RubiRedJK

  145. wayoflife January 12th, 2008 1:45 am

    Well, yes, you should. While reinstalling your factory links as is will work, you will run the risk of causing your front links to bind/bend when disconnected.

    Eddie

  146. mudpup January 13th, 2008 3:56 am

    I just recieved my kit today. I have a 07 sahara unlimited/18 wheels with a warn bumper and winch. I’m planning on keeping my stock set up for now. I believe my jk will be all set. Is there any additional parts I should need or concerns before putting the lift on. Wheel spacers, rear track bar relocation bracket, ect. I want to make sure I have every thing I need before ripping into this and have the same ride.

    Chuck

  147. wayoflife January 13th, 2008 11:55 am

    Hey Chuck, in terms of tools, everything you will need should be listed in the left hand column at the top of the page. As far as parts go, this kit comes complete with everything you will need.

    Eddie

  148. Jason January 16th, 2008 12:12 am

    Eddie,

    I just got my TF BB with shock adapters. There are a few product changes since your write up.

    First that the kit now also comes with new rear swaybar links.

    TF instructions for the swaybar links. (Instuction version 22 Oct 07)

    21. Remove stock rear swaybar links and move them to the front.
    22. Discard factory front swaybar links.
    23. Install new rear swaybar links, provided in the kit, on the inside of the sway bar and axle brackets with special care when placing the bolts to avoid rubbing
    on the frame or sidewall.

    Secondly and more notable is the warning on the box and instructions that state:

    “With our longer shocks or shock extensions the factory left rear tire may rub on the sway bar at full droop. The tire will not rub at normal ride height. To take full advantage of the Budget Boost suspension travel, wheel spacers or after market wheels are required.”

  149. chad January 16th, 2008 2:18 pm

    Eddie,
    new lift just came in the mail. I am ready to install but lately I have seen threads in forum about safty issues with track bar bracket breaking. Im not sure when those threads were posted. Teraflex rep I believe said they were making a new part to solve problem. Can you tell me if there is any truth to this?
    I dont want to install lift if there is an issue of the death wabble I will wait until fix comes out. My daughter is with me everyday on the road and I dont want to take the chase if its true.

    Thank You for all the info you’ve given us

  150. wayoflife January 16th, 2008 2:49 pm

    Hi chad,
    The threads you are refering do not apply to this kit as it does not come with a track bar relocation bracket. Some kits like the Skyjacker kit had brackets that bolted onto the axle mounts and this did cause quite a few breaks. Regarding TeraFlex, the only thing I was aware of with them was a track bar bushing crush sleeve that was on the small side but I believe they have since improved upon this. Either way, it would not apply to you as again, this kit does not address the track bar in any way shape or form. As far as death wobble goes, 9 out of 10 people who claim to have it - DON’T. More times than not, they just have a bad shimmy in the steering wheel and that is typically associated with tires that are properly balanced - a common problem with larger off road tires. Of those people that did really have death wobble, most probably didn’t have their track bar tightend to torque specs. Needless to say, I think you have yourself all worried over nothing :)

    Eddie

  151. chad January 16th, 2008 4:25 pm

    Glad to hear that… Thank you again

    installing tonight
    chad

  152. Ron January 17th, 2008 2:10 am

    Hi Eddie,
    Grate Write-up.
    I’m looking to get a wheel spacers for a JK.
    Can you tell me if a solid steel from Teraflex is stronger the the aluminum one offered by Spidertrex?

    Thanks for your help.

  153. xmotox January 17th, 2008 4:10 pm

    eddie,
    the spacers needed to run stock wheels are they just the 5×5″
    1 1/4 spacer that it seems everyone carries or does it have to be
    wider to run stock?

    Thank you

  154. wayoflife January 18th, 2008 10:51 am

    Ron, I have never run steel spacers before but I have aluminum like the kind Spidertrax makes and can tell you that they are very strong and I never had any problems with mine while I was running them on my TJ.

    xmotox, the spacers are actually 1.5″ thick as anything less will require some grinding of your factory wheel studs. You need less back spacing in order to run wider tires so yes, they will make your stance widers.

    Eddie

  155. xmotox January 18th, 2008 1:30 pm

    do I need spacers even if I stick with stock wheels and tires for now? Thank You

  156. wayoflife January 18th, 2008 1:51 pm

    Only if you plan on installing the new TeraFlex rear sway bar links as they will cause rubbing on your rear tire sidewalls if you don’t.

  157. Clint January 23rd, 2008 3:01 pm

    I’ve decided to go with this budget boost since my JK will remain my daily driver. I also plan to add a 10,000# winch, but am having trouble deciding between an expensive Warn mounting plate for the the factory front bumper ($300) or to spend a little more ($550~800) and replace the bumper.

    I’ve read a lot of great information on here, and it seems the weight of just the Warn mounting plate (@ 50 lbs) and a winch (@ 100 lbs) is causing a little sag in the front…and this is on Rubicons with the upgraded shocks…I have a 2008 JK 4dr Sahara.

    How much of a sag are we talking about on a Rubicon versus a Sahara?

    Would a 3/4″ leveling spacer be appropriate to adjust for 150 lbs? What about additional weight if I decide to replace the bumper too? Would it be better if I replaced the front shocks with something a little longer to offset this instead of combining the shock extension from the budget boost with the leveling spacer?

  158. wayoflife January 23rd, 2008 8:51 pm

    What I can tell you is that with the addition of a heavy duty steel bumper and WARN Power Plant, you will see about 3/4″ of sag. So, if you just get the winch plate and winch, I would guess that you would only need about 1/2″ spacers.

    Eddie

  159. Clint January 29th, 2008 6:58 pm

    I have a 2008 JK 4wd 4dr Sahara and still contemplating this budget boost.

    I have been looking at several lift kits from 2.5″ ~ 4″. I am looking to fit 35″ tires on aftermarket rims which appears to be no problem on the new JKs (considering all backspacing issues and spacers). My only concern with a lift is the rear axle shifting off-center with a lift over 2″. I don’t know if this should be addressed with a track bar relocation bracket, an adjustable track bar, adjustable track bar links, etc.

    I have been trying to figure out what exactly comes in the Teraflex 2.5″ Budget Boost, Full Traction 3″ Economy, Pro Comp Stage 1 4″, and Superlift 4″. I want to keep the total cost under $650.

    Originally, I was sold on the Teraflex 2.5″ Budget Boost, but if I need to buy an adjustable track bar (or other option) for $200, then I am almost in the range of the other 3 options above which include more items to help adjust the geometry. 4″ lift also sounds preferable for about the same price, BUT it also begins to concern me with driveshaft angles. I am still leaning towards the budget boost in hopes that one $200 item will be enough to address the re-centering of the rear axle.

    What would you suggest as the best way to deal with the re-centering of the rear axle and keeping the geometry correct all around?

  160. wayoflife January 30th, 2008 4:02 am

    Clint, the shift you will see on both axles (not just the rear) with this budget boost is quite literally about 1/8″… maybe 1/4″ tops. It is insignificant and will not be a problem that needs to be corrected with an adjustable track bar or even relocation bracket. In fact, installing either (depending on make) could actually cause your axle to shift the other direction as some track bars have a minimum lenght that is too long or a relocation bracket designed for a lesser/taller lift. Either way, not having one really shouldn’t be your deciding factor here.

    Eddie

  161. Clint January 30th, 2008 1:46 pm

    Thanks so much. That is a very small shift, and much less than some write-ups made it sound like.

  162. wayoflife January 30th, 2008 2:29 pm

    No problem. I wheel with a couple of guys who have had this kit on for about a year now and have not had any problems what so ever even without any track bar relocation brackets.

    Eddie

  163. Clint January 31st, 2008 10:20 am

    I’m now decided on this kit (final answer…YES). I was thinking to upgrade to 35″ tires from my factory 32″, but am now re-thinking that as I don’t want to buy a speedo recalibration device. Most of my driving will be dirt, mud, and very small stream ‘puddles’. I plan to keep my factory Sahara all terrains, so would like something more aggressive but not awful on the highway. I’m looking at wheels in the 15-17″ range, and I’d like to get an inch or two wider than the factory 255’s.

    What do you suggest as a good 32″ tire that will be minimal speedo effects?

  164. Clint January 31st, 2008 10:49 am

    On step 42) above, you describe using the rear brake line extensions included in the kit, but in the ‘What you will get’ list, they aren’t listed. Are brake line extension brackets included? Rear and Front brackets?

    Thanks again!

  165. wayoflife January 31st, 2008 3:26 pm

    Yes, they are included and them not being in the list was just a mistake on my behalf.  As far as tires go, 255 pretty much equals a 32″ tire and so I would recommend that you get a 33″ tire instead as they would make a great fit.  As far as what kind to get, I really like the new Pro Comp Xtreme A/T’s if your looking for a good all around tire.  If you are looking for a good mudder, I really like Toyo M/T’s but the Pro Comp Xterem M/T’s work great too.

    Eddie

  166. fm3fm3 February 4th, 2008 12:01 am

    WOL-

    Do you have that PDF that Greg made of this write up? I’m looking to do the install on my 4-door Rubicon this weekend and I think that it would be a great help. BTW the write up is great!

  167. wayoflife February 4th, 2008 12:47 am

    Send me an email at eddie@project-jk.com and I will send it to you.

  168. xmotox February 4th, 2008 8:47 am

    Eddie I have to say Im glad you did the write up. You saved me alot of time. Thanks

  169. fm3fm3 February 10th, 2008 11:33 pm

    Eddie-

    Just did my install this weekend. Took a little longer than expected but it was worth it. At first I did not install the rear sway bar links on the inside of the axle mount. I went out to test drive my rubicon and noticed a clicking noise coming from the rear. Then I remembered the comment about needing to move the link to the inside of the axle mount. I moved it but the link seems to now be hitting the mounting bracket. Do I also need to move the upper mount to the inside? It just seems like it does not have a lot ability to rotate.

    Frank

  170. wayoflife February 11th, 2008 1:52 am

    Actually, if you are using the new links, you will need to pick up a set of wheel spacers to help reduce your back spacing.

    Eddie

  171. Clint February 11th, 2008 1:28 pm

    I just installed my lift on my 2008 on Friday and have the same problem. The new rear links measure 12.5″, or nearly 4″ longer than the originals. Because of this, it seems that the upper sway bar bolt head rubs on the inside of the wheel rim/edge when the vehicle is tilted at the slightest. I was getting a lot of noise when I first drove it around the block…especially turning to the right. Mine seems to only be rubbing on the driver side, but there isn’t much clearance on the passenger side either.

    The lift was only 2.5″, so it seems that if these sway bar links were shorter, they would clear the wheel better.

    I thought about moving the link to the inside of both the axle mount and the sway bar, but it will not fit and move freely on the axle mount end.

    Do these new kits include sway bar links that are overly long (14″ eye to eye)? Could this be a packing mistake by Teraflex?

    How long are the adjustable links now on the market? Would it be better to get wheel spacers or adjustable links to help clear the wheels?

    I took a couple pictures of the clearance problem if you’d like to add them for a visual.

  172. Frank February 11th, 2008 2:22 pm

    Eddie-

    I thought that I read that I could get away without the spacers if I mounted the links on the inside. Is this not the case? Do I NEED to get the 1.5″ spacers?

    Frank

  173. wayoflife February 11th, 2008 3:04 pm

    Clint, I did not get new links with my kit so I don’t know how long the new ones are supposed to be but what you have does sound a bit long. Perhaps you should contact TeraFlex to see if they shipped out the right ones.

    Frank, apparently, this is no longer the case or, at least if you do not redrill the mounting holes on your axle mount a bit higher up.

    Eddie

  174. Frank February 11th, 2008 3:09 pm

    I saw this on one of the threads last night. So if I redrill the mounting holes up about 3/4″ I should be okay? I was just affraid that drilling a new hole would weaking the mounting point where it may break while on the trail.

  175. wayoflife February 11th, 2008 3:18 pm

    Yeah, you should be fine so long as you provide enough room in between the existing hole and the new one.

    Eddie

  176. Frank February 11th, 2008 4:43 pm

    Last question…

    If I go up to 35″ tires (which I plan on doing in the future), I will have to install the wheel spacers though right?

  177. FILALI February 12th, 2008 10:35 am

    hello Eddie

    i wanted first to thank you for all what your doing to help us transforme our jeep!
    i have a jeep rubicon unlimited and i want to install a 35″tire but keep the original wheels(17×7,5) that the factury give, as i saw on the picture uper.
    do you think its possible ?
    if yes what are the references so that i can order the tire.

    ps:sorry my english is not good and i am extremely new in jeep world!

    thank you

    filali

  178. Clint February 12th, 2008 12:16 pm

    I will be going to 35″ tires also, and probably 12.5 wide. I went ahead and ordered some wheel spacers so that I could run my stock wheels/tires with the sway bar links on the original outside position, and also so that I will have no worries when I get the new wheels tires.

    I am still waiting to hear back from Teraflex on my question concerning the length of the sway bar links, but will post that info when I know more.

  179. wayoflife February 13th, 2008 2:24 am

    Hi filali, yes, you can keep your factory wheels but you will need to install wheel spacers like the kind Spidertrax makes. They will reduce your back spacing and make it possible for your 35″ tires to fit without any problems.

  180. Rubi07 February 13th, 2008 9:14 am

    Hi Eddie,

    I’m just about to install my 2.5″BB. I’m reading everything that I could before doing the job. Only questions is that with the new Terraflex, they also sent quick disconnect sway bar. I have a Rubicon 2007 with factory sway bar disconnect, do i have to install the ones sent with the kit??? Will the quick disconnect work even with 2.5″ lift???

    Thank you for your help,

    Sylvain

  181. wayoflife February 15th, 2008 2:25 am

    Are you sure they are disconnects and not just longer rear links? If they really are disconnects, you do not want to install them as your Rubicon will not need them.

    Eddie

  182. ASH February 15th, 2008 9:12 pm

    Good day Eddie,
    Have a ‘07 Sahara and a new 2.5″bb ready to install… From what I have read, the stock 18″ wheels and tires will rub w/o spacers… Is that correct? Would like to crank it out and get on the trail but if I need the spacers, better obtain the sets before the axles are unbolted…..
    THKS man,
    ASH

  183. Clint February 17th, 2008 12:09 pm

    This is the response I got from Teraflex:

    “Hi Clint, what tire wheel combination are you running. We have found that some factory tire wheel combinations will rub with a 2.5′ BB and some will clear. We recommend wheel spacers with factory rims. We have also found that the lower rear swat bar link mounting tab is smaller on some models, and there is very little clearance for the aftermarket link. If you hold the link at an angle and insert the bolt through the link and the tab at a
    slight angle, then start the nut, the link will pull into place. The rear links are designed to work with a 2.5″ to 4″ lift. If you have any other questions feel free to contact me, Thanks Doug.”

    I still disagree with attaching the sway bar link to the inside of the axle mount. It is a very tight fit, and I don’t see much room for it to move without hitting the axle…although it would be fine for on-road driving.

    I did install my wheel spacers yesterday, so I now have 1.5″+ clearance on each side. With new wheels with adjusted offset and new tires, this clearance will only increase. I will just have to watch as the ‘rub’ I was getting was against the 18″ wheel…with smaller diameter wheels, a rub would be against rubber, but 2″+ of clearance after spacers and better wheel offset should be more than enough.

    Keep up the great site. Eddie, you’ve got a JK’rs dream site started here. And everyone else, all our postings are what help make this so useful. KEEP IT GOING!

  184. Chuck March 7th, 2008 10:46 pm

    I have already installed my BB. I did not have any issues with my install and it rides great- I did need wheel spacers because of the rear right wheel was rubbing slightly on turns with passengers. Your install tips was right on the money and thanks. The issue I have now is that my front end sags from the Warn winch and bumper. I see that you explained where to place the spacer in one of your responses. Did you have any issues putting the spacer upon a spacer and what would you recommend for a spacer. I’m not sure if its worth putting them on or not.

    Thanks again.

  185. wayoflife March 8th, 2008 11:08 am

    Chuck, you can pretty much place the additional spacer where ever you want but I would put it in between the tall spacer and rubber isolator. That way it will be hidden from view once installed. No problems using both.

    Eddie

  186. easy_day March 25th, 2008 12:54 am

    I want to run 35″ tires on this 2.5″ BB lift. Do you think adding a 1″ Body Lift will comprimise anything that the TeraFlex 2.5″ lift did by way of smooth driving on and off road? I am completely new to Jeeps and 4×4ing in general. Thank you for your time.

  187. wayoflife March 26th, 2008 9:41 am

    A body lift will do just that, lift the body up off the frame 1″ and will not have any effect on your ride as it has nothing to do with your suspension.

    Eddie

  188. Adam April 17th, 2008 8:44 am

    First, thanks for the fantastic write up. I have a question about sway bar end links and an extra 3/4″ hockey puck. I’m about to install a BDS 2″ Budget Boost on an 08 Rubicon so do I need new extended sway bar links for the rear and put the ones out back up front? Also would it be ok to place the 3/4″ spacer in-between the BDS spacer up front to eliminate the rake? Again thanks for the write up.

  189. wayoflife April 17th, 2008 10:09 am

    yes, it would be okay to stack an extra spacer in between your BB to help eliminate your rake but IHMO, 3/4″ is too much especially if you do not have a heavy aftermarket bumper and winch. that is unless you’d rather have your jeep sitting a bit nose up. also, i would be cautious about using a hockey puck to do this as it will not be the same diameter as the rubber isolator. last but not least, regarding the sway bar links, IF you do decide to install 3/4″ spacers on top of your 2″ BB, you will want to get extended links for the rear and install the factory rear up front.

    Eddie

  190. Sam April 25th, 2008 8:51 pm

    WOL,
    awesome write up. I have three
    questions before I start my install of the 2.5BB.

    1. I have wrangler x and I got the new sway bar links. Can I still use them even though its not a Rubicon ?

    2. Is the kit supposed to come with new bolts for the rear shock extensions? I got the extensions but no appearant bolts that will work.

    3. How do I install the rear trac bar bracket that came with my kit?

    thanks

    Sam

  191. Tim April 27th, 2008 9:56 pm

    Eddie
    I installed the budget boost several months ago. I am very happy with it but would like to find out the best way to raise the front to be level with the rear.
    Thanks

  192. wayoflife April 28th, 2008 1:45 pm

    Stacking a 1/2″ coil spacer up front should do the trick. If you go more, your Jeep might look a bit nose up especially once you load it up.

  193. wayoflife April 28th, 2008 2:09 pm

    Hi Sam,
    1. Yes, but you will need wheel spacers or aftermarket wheels with less back spacing in order to clear them in the rear.

    2. Yes - if you did not get them, you need to contact your vendor or TeraFlex as they are missing.

    3. Unfortunately, I do not know for sure as I did not have one to install. However, you might want to check the Full Tracion 3″ Economy lift write-up as it has an installation for one and it might be the same.

    Eddie

  194. xmotox May 3rd, 2008 8:09 pm

    Eddie I have a 2.5 BB and flexed it a little then looked under my jeep and noticed that I almost pulled my rear brake line off with the blot from the rear sway bar. do you know if anyone else has had this problem and what would you suggest to try?

    Thanks

  195. wayoflife May 4th, 2008 12:40 am

    is it safe to assume that you do not have an adjustable track bar or track bar relocation bracket? if so, the axle shift you will see will be just enough to cause this problem. the simple solution to it is to just bend the brackets inward a bit. :)

  196. Finn May 19th, 2008 12:13 pm

    Hi Eddie,

    Great stuff! You may have answered this a bunch a times already, but I got my 2.5″ budget boost today and there is a sticker on the box saying that I must get wheel spacers if I plan on using my stock wheels. I looked around at wheel spacers and the various websites indicate that the spacers are just for folks who want larger tires…they don’t really talk about needing them for lifts alone. From reading the questions/answers here, it appears that Teraflex may have modified the kit to include some new parts. Is that why the spacers are now necessary? Are they really necessary if I’m staying with stock wheels and tires on my Wrangler X? Did you need them when you were riding around on your stock wheels?

    Thanks,
    Finn

  197. wayoflife May 20th, 2008 3:54 pm

    the spacers are needed if you plan on installing the new rear sway bar links that come with the kit as the links will make contact with your wheels/tire side walls. since you have an x, i would recommend NOT installing the new links and you will be just fine.

  198. Chas May 22nd, 2008 12:07 pm

    Hi,

    Great site , thanks for making it available.
    Getting ready to start installation of my new 2.5bb on my 2008 Rubicon 2 dr and have some questions. I am going to be staying with the stock wheels and tires for the foreseeable future and would like to keep them as far under the fender flares as possible. Therefore I would like to not use wheel spacers. Would buying a new set of stock rear swaybar connectors from my local Jeep dealer for the front swaybar installation and keep the existing swaybar connectors on the rear cure the clearance problems with the swaybar connectors? Also would it be better to not use the trackbar relocator. It would seem that if both axles shift 1/8 ” to 1/4″ then using the relocator on the rear and recentering it and leaving the front axle shifted therefore no longer having the axles parrelel would be worse than not using the relocator at all.
    Reading through your early threads it appears that you did not get therefore did not change swaybar connectors or use the trackbar relocator and apparently had no problems , did you use wheel spacers when you were still running stock wheels and tires?
    If staying with stock swaybar connectors would I still install them on the outsides of the swaybar and frame mount?

    Thanx

    Chas

  199. wayoflife May 22nd, 2008 3:14 pm

    hi chas, yes, i would think if you picked up a set of factory rear links to use in the rear, that would be an acceptable solution. i would install the track bar relocation brackets as they will help recenter your axles and insure you won’t have any rubbing issues with the rear links. if you use the factory links, you will not need to run wheel spacers.

    eddie

  200. Will June 7th, 2008 10:32 pm

    Hey Eddie,

    First of all, your website is great and has helped out tremendously in deciding what to do with my JK. I have a few questions concerning the Budget Boost 2.5in lift. I have read some of the posts above and I am still a little bit unclear. I have a 2008 two door Wrangler X. I am planning on going up to 33in. BFgoodrich All-Terrains and using the stock rims. Do I need wheel spacers for 33’s with the stock rims or are 33’s not large enough to warrant spacers? I am a college student and gas prices alone are eating right through my wallet so I don’t want to spend an extra 250 dollars or so on spacers if I really do not need them. Also, will I need to install the new rear sway bar links on my X or is that only for Rubicons? Once again, thanks for all the help your website has provided. It is the best JK website I have been too so far.

    -Will

  201. wayoflife June 9th, 2008 12:58 am

    hey will, you will need to run wheel spacers if your 33’s measure 12.50″ wide. if you get 10.50’s, you should be okay. regarding the rear sway bar links, no, if you do not have a rubicon, you will not need to install the new taller links.

    eddie

  202. lin June 15th, 2008 10:14 pm

    Hi
    Thanks for the great write up, it was very helpful as the Teraflex destructions stink!
    Just an FYI they now put the track bar reclocation bracket in the kit.

    Just an FYI to all.

    Lin

  203. Misplaced_Texan_in_Italy July 1st, 2008 9:40 am

    OK I have read thew the whole list of Q&A and i have this Q
    2007 JK Sierra
    2.5 in. BB
    can you fit 17×8 4.5 in backspacing wheels with 35×12.5 on it with no spacers?

  204. wayoflife July 1st, 2008 4:10 pm

    If you are refering to NO wheel spacers, yes, you can.  if you are refering to NO budget boost - NO, you can’t.

  205. Misplaced_Texan_in_Italy July 3rd, 2008 6:23 am

    yes the budget boost with no spacers. got it
    thanks.

  206. Greg July 3rd, 2008 6:56 pm

    I have had the BB in about a month. If you have the right tools the install is pretty much like you say.
    I also installed 1 1/2 spacers and new Nitto 32″x12.5″ tires on the stock 18″ rims on my Sahara 4 door.
    I do have a lot of sway when I hit ruts in the road at higher 30+ speeds. I am not sure if I missed something (installed all the parts) or if this is typical. I did have the swaying before I changed out the stock tires about two weeks ago.

  207. wayoflife July 6th, 2008 1:54 am

    can you be more specific - what exactly do you mean by “swaying”?

  208. Greg July 6th, 2008 10:46 pm

    Other words might be floating? or slight jerking or feeling like I need to overcorrect when I hit a rut in the asphalt etc. Sorry, that it the best I can do.

  209. Snippy July 9th, 2008 11:02 pm

    Do you think if I install a stubby bumper and a WARN M8000 (not the heavier PowerPlant), I’ll still see drooping in the front? Wondering if I should bother with the 3/4″ coil spacers. Looks like the M8000 is about 42lbs lighter than the PowerPlant 9500.

  210. wayoflife July 10th, 2008 11:10 am

    it’s added weight and so you will see some droop - just not as much. personally, i would install things as you really need them. in other words, do your lift without the 3/4″ spacers and then add them if you need them.

  211. Ben July 14th, 2008 3:25 pm

    WOL,

    after wheeling last friday, my front passenger spring is slightly bowed. i checked the lower perch and it seems to be seated properly. the driver side is straight. Neither side rubs or touches the bump stops.

    what has caused this? is this a problem?

  212. John Ryan July 14th, 2008 10:29 pm

    Did mine today, it was a PIA. Had some tech problems, pretty much all the ones listed above. I installed the new rear sway bars on the INSIDE? Is that ok? Thanks for the write up, much better than the directions.

  213. wayoflife July 15th, 2008 2:48 am

    ben, did you opt for the replacement coils or are you just using the coil spacers? a slight bowing really is no big deal and if you got new coils, it is pretty common.

    john, if you were able to get them install, having the links on the inside is okay.

  214. Chas July 21st, 2008 2:37 pm

    Eddie,

    Did the Terraflex 2.5 bb lift on my 08 Rubicon 2 dr. about a month ago and thanks to your articles , personal help and the pdf.s you sent the installation was a breeze.The ride and handling are at least as good as stock and possibly a tad better. Have put about 4000 miles on it including 7 days at Moab and a 120 mile beach run at Padre Island , Texas, with zero problems. At Moab we ran some of the more difficult trails, including “Golden Spike” and was able to do golden crack with no damage, this with stock 32’s and stock plastic bumpers and air dam and once again no damage. Needless to say ,but I am very happy with the results.

    Thanks again

    Chas

  215. Will July 25th, 2008 11:36 pm

    Eddie,

    Getting ready to install the 2.5BB lift on my 08 2-door X. I installed a new much heavier front bumper and I am planning on installing a winch in the near future. I ordered 3/4in spacers to level out the front end due to the extra weight. With the addition of the 3/4in front spacers along with the 2.5in BB, is using the rear sway bar links on the front and installing the new longer ones in the back necessary. When I asked you earlier about this you said it was only necessary for rubi’s but I did not know if the added height due to the extra spacer would change this. Also, with the lift the warning says that the longer sway bar links for the rear will only touch the stock wheels at full suspension compression. I know that you did not have the knew links with your kit but I didn’t know whether or not you knew if this was the case or if they rubbed during most normal driving. I am getting 16×10 Pro Comp 8089 rims and 35×12.5 BFG All-Terrains, but they won’t be in for a couple of weeks and I wanted to install the budget boost kit now, but I also want to be able to drive my Jeep around on the road until I get the new wheels without worrying about rubbing.

    Thanks for all your help,
    Will

  216. Will July 26th, 2008 1:22 pm

    And also, I know with this lift a dropped pitman arm is not necessary, but would you recommend installing a new one? Did you have any trouble just using the stock one after you put the lift on?

  217. wayoflife August 2nd, 2008 7:06 pm

    hey will, if you don’t have a rubi, you really don’t need to install the new links. the new links will help with articulation on the trail and if you plan on doing a lot of wheeling, i would install them. as far as your tires go, yeah, you be fine riding around with what you have until you get your new ones. oh, as far as the dropped pitman arm goes, no, you will not need one.

  218. jeepisgood August 29th, 2008 6:51 pm

    The picture shown next to step number 41 shows the sway bar link on the outside (closer to the wheel) of the sway bar and sway bar bracket. This contradicts both the instructions and pictures on the Teraflex instructions. You may want to update your pic to avoid confusion.

  219. wayoflife September 2nd, 2008 7:54 pm

    the outside is how the links were installed from the factory and how they should be installed unless you do not have wheels with less backspacing or wheel spacers.

  220. Alex September 16th, 2008 12:03 pm

    Hello Eddie,

    I installed the kit according your write up. Thank you!
    Because I did something like this the first time I have the following questions:
    1) In Step No 8, I did not disconnect the front track bar (I forgot it :) I still did everything else. Is this a problem? Why would I need to do so?
    2)While taking the nut off my left shock (Step No 6, Stud mount nut), I broke the complete thread (RUST!) I had about 8mm thread left on the shock to install the shock extension. How big is this problem? Can I drive on pavement for a couple weeks or should I get a new shock right away? Is this a warranty thing?

    Thank you!

    Alex

  221. wayoflife September 18th, 2008 3:25 pm

    hey alex, you should be fine in both cases :)

  222. Alex September 18th, 2008 5:28 pm

    Hi again,
    I just learned that there should be bracket to extend the rear track bar. I did not receive this with the kit and the write up does not mention this. I do have an rear axle offset of 1 inch!! (The upper driver link bolt is touching the wheel now!)

    Please help,
    Thanks

    Alex

  223. wayoflife September 19th, 2008 8:46 pm

    no, it might be off by about 1/8″-1/4″ at most. you will be fine without it.

  224. Paul M October 4th, 2008 9:32 pm

    Hi Eddie,

    I love your write ups, and the Project-JK site and forums! I’m from Australia, and have learned so much from your write ups. I have a question. I have a 2″ lift, from a local manufacturer - which consists of Shocks and coils. The front coils have basically sagged to near stock height! I was thinking of getting coil spacers, or a BB like this Terraflex kit, but local mechanics tell me it would put too much strain on the coils? I don’t know what to do…and figure that I would actually be better positioned with my aftermarket coils/shocks, as they are longer than stock. What are your thoughts on this (adding a 2.5 BB or spacers, to a Rubicon with already replaced aftermarket shocks/coils)?

  225. wayoflife October 6th, 2008 11:47 am

    so long as you install the bump stop extensions like you are supposed to, you will not have any problems with installing a BB on top of what you already have.

  226. Billy October 30th, 2008 10:44 am

    Hey WOL,

    I followed your instructions and it was really quite easy. However, I was so “into it” that I didn’t install the new rear track bar relocation bracket. I just went by your instructions and used a ratchet strap to pull it back to the factory location. Is there any real advantage to using the bracket? Do you suggest that I go back in and install it or just roll with it the way it is?

  227. wayoflife November 1st, 2008 1:59 am

    hey billy, while it’s not needed, the installation of that bracket will help to recenter your axle and so i would recommend that you install it.

  228. Portahouse December 5th, 2008 8:28 pm

    I have a 4 door sahara unlimited with a 2″ body lift. Plan on installing the 2.5″ spacer lift also. Will this cause any problems. It does not have the dana 44 ax. Is going with 35″ tires a problem with the smaller axle. what gears should I go with for 35″ tires. What tires would you recommend? I do alot of highway driving so I want something that looks good and will last. WHat do you think about cooper STT? No rock climbing just mud if anything. Can you put locking hub on the sahara?

  229. wayoflife December 8th, 2008 5:59 pm

    you should be fine with this setup :)

  230. RON December 21st, 2008 8:16 pm

    eddie, i have 08 jk with 2.5 lift, factory tire 255/75/17 could i run 285/70/17 without it rubbing.

  231. wayoflife December 22nd, 2008 11:42 am

    you can run them but you might see a little rubbing at a full turn. it really just depends on the make of the tire. some are bigger and some are smaller.

  232. RON December 22nd, 2008 8:13 pm

    wayoflife, thanks for getting back,what brand do do think would work ,i think their 11.5 wide

  233. wayoflife December 22nd, 2008 10:27 pm

    just about all brands will work find and as i said, you might just see some minor rubbing at a full turn. if you do have some rubbing, you can fix it by adding washers to your steer stops.

  234. LAHAL February 3rd, 2009 8:55 pm

    I have a question that I don’t think has been asked. So here it goes.

    If I install this 2.5″ BB, and then a year from now, have a buddy give me his 3″ lift coils from his jeep that is now getting a larger lift. Could I, (if I had all the correct track bar bracket’s and adj track bar’s and shocks etc etc) use the 3″ coil with the 2.5″BB for a total of 5.5″ of lift? and then install the Long Arm Upgrade Kit?

    Or would it be dangerous to run this set up?

    Hope this question wasn’t to wild.

    Thanks,
    LAHAL

  235. wayoflife February 4th, 2009 2:56 am

    no, it wouldn’t be dangerous and you may not even “need” a set of long arms to do it. but, if you can just get the right coils for the job, that would be the better way to go.

  236. JKUaV08 March 6th, 2009 1:06 pm

    Could you still run the stock front and back bumpers with the 35s you put on?? Did you install wheel spacers with the 35s? If so, what size? Im looking to install this Teraflex BB with M.T. MTZs(35×12.5/r17) with M.T. Sidebiter wheels. I was thinking about installing some Spidertrax 1-1/4″ spacers to prevent rubbing. What do you think. Thanks.

  237. wayoflife March 6th, 2009 3:10 pm

    yes, you can still run factory bumpers with 35’s. up front, you will see some rubbing of the air dam at a full turn and in the rear, it will be a tight fit but doable. if you get new aftermarket wheels, just make sure that the backspacing on them is 4.5″ or less and you will not need wheel spacers.

  238. JKUaV08 March 6th, 2009 6:24 pm

    what size spacer do you recommend for a wheel that has 5.71 of backspacing

  239. wayoflife March 6th, 2009 6:48 pm

    is that really the only size back spacing it’s available in? i would ask to make sure because most wheels come in a variety of back spacing. if so, the smallest wheel spacer you can get and still be safe is 1.25″ and even at that, you will need to grind your wheel studs a bit. otherwise, you will need to get 1.5″

  240. Brownsteve811 March 15th, 2009 3:21 pm

    Im interested in lifting my 08 jk sahara 4 door and have some questions. Ive bought the rough country 2.5″ bb lift that is very similiar to this one and is also capable of clearing 35’s. My real concern is the backspacing of my wheels. Im buying new wheels that offer a couple of different options. The lift recommends 4.5″ backspacing but can more be acceptable to ensure against rubbing? Ive read on other posts that too much can actually cause rubbing so Im pretty lost in my decisions. How will wheel offsets effect rubbing also?

  241. wayoflife March 15th, 2009 4:38 pm

    more back spacing will pull your wheels in closer to your frame and this is where rubbing issues come into play. less back spacing will push your tires out from under your fenders and this will help you to clear them. 4.5″ or less is what you want.

  242. Brownsteve811 March 25th, 2009 3:46 pm

    How will wheel offsets effect the possibilities of rubbing?

  243. wayoflife March 25th, 2009 10:58 pm

    it should actually help prevent rubbing.

  244. Brownsteve811 April 5th, 2009 8:21 pm

    How important are the use of bumpstops in a lift like this? I have a similiar lift that didnt include bumpstops so Im planning on buying some from teraflex. What size would be right for my lift?

  245. wayoflife April 6th, 2009 10:00 am

    bumpstops are needed to help prevent the over compression of your coils. for 2.5″ of lift, you should have about 2″ of extensions.

  246. Erinmd May 11th, 2009 8:24 am

    Got this package on my 2007 Jeep Sahara. I looks hot!

  247. doctordel July 15th, 2009 2:01 pm

    WOL, many thanks for all you do for us at this site. I picked up both a 2008 Sahara 4×2 Unlimited and 2008 Sahara 4×4 Unlimited (during the crazy sell-off by Chrysler earlier this year) that are both stock. My wife and I both like the lifted look that the BB gives. Can this kit be used on the 4×2 also, to your knowledge? If so, are there any significant changes? I appreciate any info you might have.

  248. wayoflife July 16th, 2009 2:18 pm

    yes, you most certainly can install this lift on your jeep and there are no changes at all to how they are installed.

  249. Ali August 22nd, 2009 10:42 pm

    Firstly - nice forum (just joined).

    Me : 2007 JK 2DR Rubicon - Stock Factory setup.

    Mission : 80% pavement (sadly), 20 % trails and rocks but not necessarily the Rubicon trail (not immediately anyway). I want to attempt to retain the stock ride feel ( i like it) but not the look. On 35s, it looks right.

    My final targeted config:
    35″ tires with 2.5 - 3″ suspension lift + Bumper/winch upgrades (sorry i don’t believe in the Unichip snake-oil nor cooling air unless i see Dyno results)

    I’ve read the entire thread.

    My conclusion :

    Option (1) : Do a 3 inch body lift. Cheesy yes i know.

    Option (2) Do the Teraflex 2.5″ BB suspension, keep the Rubicon stock shock-absorbers and get extensions, put in spacers to deal with the wider tires.

    Downside : with 35″ tires, I’ll have minor rub at full flex in a full deflection turn.

    or

    Option (3): Do a 3″ suspension lift, replace shock absorbers (which manufacturer?) and not have any issues.
    Downside : Cost.

    Questions :
    a) Are my conclusions correct ?
    b) Any suggestions on the 3″ lift manufacturer ? Which shock absorbers? I see lots of options but not many independent reviews.

    e.g ZONE, AEV, Skyjacker, Rubicon express and so on.

    c) For someone who lives in NYC (and doesn’t have access to a garage to do the job himself), how would i validate that the shop i give the job to (don’t have a choice) does it correctly. Any Reputable shops in NJ/NY who know what they’re doing ?

    -a.

  250. wayoflife August 25th, 2009 10:06 am

    if price is an issue, your best bet is to get a 2.5″ BB, keep your rubi shocks and get a 1″ body lift as that’ll give you what you need to clear 35’s and retain your factory ride. if you can afford to get a lift, i would recommend going this route:

    http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/northridge4×4-old-man-emu-jeep-jk-wrangler-long-travel-lift-kit-installation-write-up

  251. Darrin August 29th, 2009 10:01 pm

    I was wondering what the difference was between the 2.5″ BB, and the 2.5″ lift that comes with new coils. Is that it, instead of spacers you just get longer coils? Which do you recommend? Great website too, thanks for the info.

  252. wayoflife August 30th, 2009 11:28 am

    yup, that’s it. one is cheaper and the other gives you new coils. if you can afford it, i would recommend getting the new coils.

  253. Marco August 31st, 2009 6:36 am

    What I didn’t understand are the relocation brackets.
    Why would you mount a rear one to recenter the rear axle, and not something for the front axle?
    How can you bring in perfect alignment both 2 axles with this 2,5″ kit?
    I have a 2008 sahara with 18″ stock wheels. TKS!

  254. wayoflife August 31st, 2009 9:13 am

    driving around with your axles not recentered is not so much of a problem but, in the rear, the axle shift is enough that depending on how wide your tires are, the driver side side wall can come into contact with the rear sway bar. better than a relocation bracket, i would recommend that you get an adjustable track bar both front and rear.

  255. Evan October 5th, 2009 4:47 pm

    Eddie,
    Thanks for the site, where did you find the kit for $225 the cheapest I have seen it with adapters is $325.

  256. wayoflife October 6th, 2009 9:54 am

    the kit i had was one of the first and was offered with less parts. the new kits are more complete and that is what you are paying for.

  257. keith November 3rd, 2009 12:27 pm

    thanks for the write up, i just bought the terraflex 2.5 spacer lift for my 07 x 2 door. my question is will this kit level the jeep or will i need a 3/4 spacer also, the jeep is completely stock now. the kit didnt come with shock ex. im planning on buying more shocks before i install the lift

  258. wayoflife November 8th, 2009 1:18 pm

    “level” is completely subjective and what most people consider to be level, i think is nose high. having said that, if you want your front end to be nose high, no, this kit will not do that for you and the addition of a a 1/2″ or 3/4″ spacers is what you will need.

  259. keith November 9th, 2009 5:28 pm

    thanks for the info, i guess ill have to buy some spacers

  260. Rony Justiniano November 19th, 2009 9:38 am

    Eddie, I have a JK Unlimited X and would like to buy the TeraFlex 2.5″ Budget Boost with shock extensions. My Jeep has manual transmission but I didn’t understand the part of the sway bar. Do I need to buy the package with sway bar or the other one? Also I have the ARB JK front bumper with a WARN XD9000I, and my other question is if it this lift kit would do it for a 285/70-R17 or 33 with factory wheels. Thanks!

  261. wayoflife November 19th, 2009 12:07 pm

    i’m pretty sure they all come with the extended sway bar links now. as far as tires go, yes, they will fit but you may find it necessary to install a set of wheel spacers to help reduce your back spacing enough to clear your rear sway bar link ends.

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  264. D--lo December 17th, 2009 1:01 pm

    I was wondering whats the best lift for a 2009 wrangler jk unlimited with stock rubicon tires on aftermarket XD rims. I dont want it to look silly, but also want to get the most lift possible.

    David

  265. wayoflife December 19th, 2009 11:39 am

    i guess that depends on how big of a tire you want to run.

  266. D--lo December 21st, 2009 2:39 pm

    I am going to use the stock tires for now. Do u think the 2.5 will be enough without alot of fender space.

  267. wayoflife December 22nd, 2009 11:55 am

    you will not have any problems if you run stock tires.

  268. Eric March 17th, 2010 6:34 pm

    Hello,

    Found your website and have a Question.

    I’m a Newbie @ owning a jeep. I just purchased a 2010 Jk sport Islander. It came with stock Rubicon “17 inch wheels & 255(31’s) MT BF Goodrich tires. I will not be “Off roading” hardcore, just want to beef my ride up a little. What is the best Budget lift to put on (2″ or 2.5″) so I can put 33/12.5/17 AT on it?

    PS: I was told I only had to put a 2″ spacer on front and I can run 33’s. Is this the case on this model? I want to be sure and buy the correct thing!!! Doesn’t need to be high dollar!!!!

    Other than the lift kit is there any other out of pocket part additions I will need to beaware of to run 33/12.5/17

    Thanks for any help!! Eric in Michigan

  269. Max June 10th, 2010 3:03 am

    Hey guys! Loving all the advice and stories, they truly are helpful. I am in the process of building my first jeep ( ‘10 JK 2 door) and I want to run either 33’s or 35’s. Just wondering what lift you guys would recommend? Something like this 2.5? or something a little bigger?

    Any feedback is useful especially from those who have lifted their own jeeps.

    Thank you

  270. wayoflife June 10th, 2010 2:29 pm

    2.5″ and a 1″ body lift will get you clearing 35’s no problem

  271. Max June 12th, 2010 12:21 am

    Sick! thank you! and would i have to swap out anything else (axles, drive shafts) to run 35’s? I have a 2010 2 door sahara trail edition

    thanks

  272. wayoflife June 12th, 2010 1:45 am

    if you plan on running your factory wheels, you will need to install a set of wheel spacers.

  273. Max June 12th, 2010 1:58 am

    Ok perfect, last question, any recommendations on tires? and is it really worth 35’s? or stick with 33’s?

    Thanks for everything

  274. wayoflife June 12th, 2010 2:49 am

    if you’re even considering it, yes, you’ll want 35’s. as far as what time to get goes - depends on what you need them to do.

  275. Max June 12th, 2010 10:26 pm

    this is probably a stupid question, is there a good ‘all-round’ tire?? for like, hardpack dirt, some sand, some crawling, a bit of mud? or does that not exist?

  276. Andy July 1st, 2010 11:55 am

    I am running a 2007 Sahara Unlimited. I was wanting to know what is the better lift for ride quality between the TeraFlex BB, TeraFlex 2.5″ suspension lift, or 3″ TeraFlex suspension lift. This is my daily driver. I also will be running 18×9 black XD 778 wheels and would like to know what size tire would look and handle the best? Tires I’ve been looking at are Nitto Mud Grappler, BFG KM2, Mickey Thompson MTZ, Procomp XTreme M/T. This Jeep is more for show and very little off-roading.

  277. wayoflife July 1st, 2010 12:00 pm

    max, a good all around tire for the terrain you have stated would in my opinion be a set of toyo mt’s.

    andy, if your jeep is mostly for show, you should probably just get the BB with shock extensions as that will ultimately retain the ride you have now. the suspension lifts are nice but are designed more for the off roader and will provide a different ride than what you have now. some would say it’s better and some would not. as far as tire size goes, a set of 305’s might be the best fit but, you can probably get away with as much as 35’s.

  278. Andy July 2nd, 2010 7:41 pm

    Will need to make any modifications with the teraflex 3″ suspension lift and will 35s fit without rubbing?

  279. wayoflife July 4th, 2010 9:55 am

    if you don’t already have aftermarket wheels with 4.5″ of back spacing or less, you will need to get 1.5″ wheel spacers

  280. Andy July 17th, 2010 12:12 pm

    Eddie,

    Will the stock tire carrier be able to hold a 35″ tire without any problems or will I need to get a tire carrier? Thanks for all the info the information is great!

    Thanks,
    Andy

  281. wayoflife July 18th, 2010 4:59 pm

    you can do it so long as you install an adapter or wheel spacer to give the tire some clearance. you will also need to install some rubber isolator extensions to insure the side wall of your spare is making full contact with them. if you do not, your spare will jiggle and that can cause your tire carrier to break over time. also, the added weight as a whole will eventually cause stress to your tailgate and it’s hinges. personally, i would recommend a bumper tire carrier.

  282. Andy August 12th, 2010 3:36 pm

    Eddie,
    Should be my last question before I get everything ordered and put on. I am ordering my wheels tomorrow and there are two that are little bit different in a few of the numbers and was wondering if you could give me a little help on which one I need. This will be going on a 2007 unlimited sahara with a 3″ lift and running 35’s.

    One: 18×9, 5×5.0/135 offset: -12mm center: 87.1mm BKSP: 4.53″

    Two: 18×9, 5×5.0/5.5 offset: -12mm center: 78.1mm BKSP: 4.53″

    Need to know the one that would fit the best that is if either one would fit at all. The wheels are the XD Monster. Again thanks a lot for all the input.

    Thanks,
    Andy

  283. Max September 10th, 2010 1:41 am

    I am stuck and need help! I am trying to decide if I should get a Teraflex budget boost with springs and shock adaptors or just spend the money and get the full Teraflex 2.5 lift suspension system. What would you recommend?

    and if i do go with just the BB with springs and adaptors, will my front end sag if i throw a bumper/winch combo on??

    Thanks a ton!

    Max

  284. wayoflife September 10th, 2010 10:07 am

    andy, both wheels are very similar and you should be fine with either.

    max, if you plan on wheeling your jeep a lot and if you can afford it, i would get the coils. if you just want to have the lift and/or are on a tight budget, the BB will be just fine. a heavy bumper and winch will cause a little sag on anything.

  285. Martin October 3rd, 2010 2:46 pm

    I had this exact lift put on last week and it looks great. I know you said no alignment was necessary but I hear it is at the same time, so Im not sure. But I went to the shop to get an alignment (prior to reading this write up) and they were just flat out…”no we cant do it, everything is messed up” they wanted me to buy cam bolts and take it back to my guy who installed the lift and have him re install it. My rear thrust angle was at 0.47 and should be at .25 In addition other than the death wobble that I have experienced in the past few days, I have a constant wobble that wasn’t there before. The shop only adjusted my Toe in but thats all.

    How do I go about getting rid of that wobble and will that rear thrust angle ever be at .25 or not with a lift installed? Someone said they put spacers on their wheels..does this help? I just dont feel comfortable with that unsteady shake constantly.

  286. wayoflife October 4th, 2010 10:50 am

    martin, i say that no alignment is necessary because there is nothing you can align. because your tie rod is connected to the knuckles instead of the drag link, your toe will not have changed. also, because you do not have adjustable control arms, you cannot set your caster. because you have a solid front axle, there is no camber adjustment that can be made. if you take your jeep to an alignment shop, the only thing they can do and will charge you for is to recenter your steering wheel. of course, this is something you can do yourself with a 15mm wrench and 1 minute of your time.

    regarding death wobble, i just want to make sure that what you are experiencing is a uncontrolable extremely violent shaking of your whole jeep and to the point that the only thing that will stop it is bringing your jeep to a stop. anything less than that is just a bad shimmy and NOT the same thing. now, if you really have death wobble, an alignment WILL NOT fix it. more than likely, you have a front track bar with bolts that are not tightend to 125 ft. lbs. of torque. any other constant “wobble” you might have is most likely being caused by your tires not being balanced properly.

  287. M@DSTER October 14th, 2010 2:09 pm

    I have a 2010 4dr sahara and I want to install this budget lift. I will be leaving the rest of this jeep stock except for tire size. My question is will this lift also level the jeep and get rid of the raked stance. I cant stand how the front looks lower than the front and I really want the front and back to be even.

  288. Brandon October 14th, 2010 4:38 pm

    I have a 2009 JK 2 door and I am wanting to run 35″ inch tires. Would I be able to clear those with this 2.5 inch BB or would I need a 1 inch body lift as well? Are you running a body lift or just the BB in this write-up? Thanks

  289. wayoflife October 18th, 2010 10:10 am

    the kit will just lift your jeep evenly. if you want to level out your jeep, you need the leveling kit.

  290. Brandon October 18th, 2010 3:32 pm

    I have a 2009 JK 2 door and I am wanting to run 35″ inch tires. Would I be able to clear those with this 2.5 inch BB or would I need a 1 inch body lift as well? Are you running a body lift or just the BB in this write-up? Thanks

  291. wayoflife October 19th, 2010 12:42 am

    depending on the 35, you may see minor rubbing when flexing on the trail. a 1″ BL will help eliminate this problem.

  292. Pete December 26th, 2010 10:52 pm

    Hey Eddie

    I am about to install my Teraflex Budget boost..

    I also have the spidertrax spacers - at what point in the Teraflex lift install should I install the spacers??

    Thanks

    Pete

  293. wayoflife December 27th, 2010 2:52 pm

    just before you reinstall your wheels.

  294. Mark Doody January 6th, 2011 11:11 pm

    If I just got the 2.5″ BB with out the optional shock adaptors, can we still install it?

  295. Mark Doody January 7th, 2011 1:34 am

    Just ordered the extensions!!!

  296. Jason January 30th, 2011 10:38 pm

    This is to Wayoflife. I did a Rough Country 2.5 inch budget lift on my JK. I had no problems with it at all. I also have Rough Country Quick Disconnects. Now my problem is due to my wife being real short and now pregnant, I took the lift off. Then I took it somewhere to have it re-aligned and to have my new toyo’s mounted and balanced, since then I have been hearing loud clanking noise’s when I go over rough road. I have done some research and some people say maybe the shocks are loose, or maybe the tierods need tighten… I want to know what you think the issue could be… thanks

  297. Mr. Jeep April 13th, 2011 4:48 pm

    What would cause the rear to feel loose? For example whenever I go over a speed bump I get a loose feeling sway. As if the body was not tightened to the frame. All is tight though. I do hear a rattle sound like a loose washer but can not find it anywhere.

    thanks for any info.

  298. Mr. Jeep April 13th, 2011 4:49 pm

    This only started after the 2.5 BB was installed.

  299. wayoflife April 14th, 2011 9:44 am

    when you say all is tight, are you sure the track bar is torqued to 125 ft bls?

  300. Mr. Jeep April 15th, 2011 8:04 am

    Yep, I checked that to make sure it was torqued properly.

  301. Mr. Jeep April 20th, 2011 4:28 pm

    Thanks for the help, I have two questions?

    1. I have an 07 sahara, do have to put the rear sway links up front?

    2. Do I really need to install the rear track bar extension?

    thanks again

  302. patrick April 30th, 2011 10:20 pm

    will i have any problems running 35 inch tires with this lift with the stock 3.73 gear ratio?

  303. wayoflife May 2nd, 2011 9:07 pm

    you may see some rubbing at a full flex if you don’t cut your fenders and, you will feel some power loss but, i found it to be tollerable.

  304. Nicholas September 8th, 2011 6:25 pm

    Hi! Eddie,

    I have a 2 door rubicon and it’s my daily driver. I wanna fit 35″ tires on it, but right now I have limited budget.
    I heard from others that if I lift myjeep under 3″, the only thing I need is just the basic kit like the TF 2.5, and my jeep will not have any problem that need to be solved with more after market modification even after a long period of time.
    I will be very happy if that is true, but will my jeep strong enough with this kit when I’m doing something that’s extrme? Should I get the TF elite 3″ suspension system instead? I would love to buy one kit that has awesome quility and perfectly fits my jeep. The time takes to save up the money does not really matter.
    Another thing I want to mention is if I get the TF 3″ lift,is it possible to put 37″ on with a body lift? Will my jeep be able to acess those under ground parking lots that have 6′6″ clearance?

    Thank you very much
    Nic

  305. Garret October 7th, 2011 6:40 pm

    Hey I have a question… I have a sport that I will be putting Rubi springs and shocks on. I was told that if I also do this budget boost I might run into axle angle, camber issues. I saw that the write up was done with a Rubi so i didnt think it would be an issue.

    Thanks for any help!

  306. wayoflife October 7th, 2011 11:19 pm

    i think you meant to say “caster” issue and, with such a small lift, no, you will not see any issues with this.

  307. Joe October 18th, 2011 9:34 pm

    I just ordered a set of 16×8 inch rims with a 4 inch backspacing and 315 75 R16 tires. I originally wanted to get a wheel with a 4.5 inch backspacing but this is what was available in a style i liked. My concen is with this lift and the wheel sticking out 1/2 furhter, will is rubb my stock wheel well when the axles are flexing?

  308. Darien Mattison October 29th, 2011 11:26 am

    Eddie
    I Ordered a 2012 2dr rubicon and will be picking it up when I get back from Afghanistan. The first thing I plan to do is install the 2.5 BB under it. I want to run a 295/70/17 or 305/70/17 on the factory rims. With a 1.5″ wheel spacer do you know if the tire will stick out past the fender? as the is now allowed in PA.
    Thanks for your help.

  309. wayoflife October 31st, 2011 3:02 pm

    yes, they will a bit but, not enough to be really noticable. i can’t speak for your inspectors but, i seriously doubt it would be enough to matter.

  310. Darien Mattison November 1st, 2011 7:02 am

    Thanks I will give it a try.

  311. Brad Greening March 19th, 2012 5:18 pm

    I have a 2012 JKU and I was wonding if there was any drive shaft problems when lifting the new 2012 that heigh? and also would you recommend the wheel spacers if your running stock rubicon rims and tires?

  312. wayoflife March 21st, 2012 10:43 am

    on a 2012, you will have problems with the front drive shaft IF you get shocks that offer too much droop. unlike previous years, this would be true regardless if you have an auto or manual. when you place your order, make sure to let them know that you have a 2012 and they will get you the correct length shocks.

  313. Sean May 18th, 2012 2:52 am

    Eddie,
    I think you show a pic of your Jeep with 35’s and 2.5″ BB. I would like the same setup but would like to know the Total Height with the Hard Top on. Please let me know if possible

  314. wayoflife May 21st, 2012 10:50 am

    i am sorry, i don’t have a shot of this.

  315. Genny September 9th, 2012 10:22 pm

    Tell me where you got that rack and those gas cans for the back? That’s what I want. Thanks!

  316. wayoflife September 14th, 2012 10:00 am

    that’s an lod bumper tire carrier

  317. Peter November 4th, 2012 12:01 pm

    Hi Eddie,

    First thanks for JK-Forum and Project JK…really the best place on the web for JK’s. I have read so many threads on this and I just need a sanity check for the expert!

    I’m the original owner of our 2008 JKU Sahara, auto, 3:73’s, with 91,000KMs on it. It’s a long term vehical, plan to hold onto it for a long time.

    I have a daily commute of 120KM round trip per day, 5 days a week, 95% all highway. It’s my DD, and do light trails, nothing extream.

    I have picked out the Mickey T 33X12.5X17 to be mounted on a Procomp wheel 17X9 with a 4.75″BS. I will buy a Procal module too.

    I’m torn between the TF leveling kit and the TF BB with shock extensions….after reading this write up many times over, I think this is the one for me.

    I don’t see me ever goning to 35’s.

    Questions:

    -is there any concern with drive line angles at the T-case or diffs too extream with this kit?
    -will I cause any premature wear on ball joints, wheel berings vs the stock size?
    -no plans for re-gearing, do you think for my style/commute of driving will I notice a big loos of power, way too much gear hunting from the good old 42RLE?
    -I expect some loss in MPG, but hope it’s not huge loss.
    -Am I missing anything else?

    Awsome write up!

    Regards,
    Peter

  318. wayoflife November 5th, 2012 2:21 am

    1. no
    2. no
    3. so long as you make sure to recalibrate your speedo, no, not really.

  319. keith November 18th, 2012 4:26 pm

    Great write up…I will be doing this mod in the spring for sure. I was wondering if you would recommend buying shock boots for the Terraflex shocks, I will not be reusing my stock shocks? Terraflex does not offer any with the kit?

  320. wayoflife November 19th, 2012 7:23 pm

    i do not recommend running shock boots

  321. Tim March 16th, 2013 1:08 am

    I bought 2010 JK Unlimited Rubicon with soft top and half doors. I bought Freedom hardtop from dealer’s parts dept separately at time of purchase, but wondering if my front coils might be less than that of those Rubi’s that come from factory with hardtop. I’ll have to check # on coil sticker. I’m planning on adding both heavy front bumper/winch combo, as well as heavy rear bumper. I’m thinking any sag in front will be leveled by rear weight too. Got a deal on the TF 2.5 BB kit and based on threads above, seems I’ll be ok. Would you agree or recommend spending the extra $ for 2.5 coil lift given the weight? Is there a min coil# I should have on my stock rubi coils for this setup? Thank you.

  322. Brian Ingram July 12th, 2013 2:12 pm

    Bought a 2013 JK 4Dr Rubicon and looking at getting a bit of a lift for running 33’s or 35’s. Couple quick questions.

    1. AEV or Terriflex BB lift? Which do you recommend and why?

    2. Any issues running 35×12.5’s? (and would you go that big) with a Rubi with 2.5″ BB lift? This is a daily driver that also does some off-roading but no serious rock crawling (nothing that can damage the body). We’d be running with a 17×9 rim (Procomp or XDs not sure yet)

  323. Brian Ingram July 12th, 2013 2:13 pm

    Oops…darn copy/past cut off half my question. Heres the full deal.

    Bought a 2013 JK 4Dr Rubicon and looking at getting a bit of a lift for running 33’s or 35’s. Couple quick questions.

    1. AEV or Terriflex BB lift? Which do you recommend and why?

    2. Any issues running 35×12.5’s? (and would you go that big) with a Rubi with 2.5″ BB lift? This is a daily driver that also does some off-roading but no serious rock crawling (nothing that can damage the body). We’d be running with a 17×9 rim (Procomp or XDs not sure yet)

    3. Should we replace the track bars on the jeep? Again, any recommendations? I heard to replace the diff cover for some better protection, you need to replace the track bars.

    #4.You mentioned needing a modified tire carrier for a 35×12.5? Is this also needed on a 33×12.5? If so we were looking at a Poison Spyder rear carrier/bumper but wasn’t sure about the weight with the BB lift.

    Thanks!

  324. øistein ski July 17th, 2013 3:25 pm

    hello
    I alredy got an OME 2″ lift on my jku, is it possible to add a BB to this to get even more lift?

  325. newkidJosh September 14th, 2013 4:58 am

    Hello! I just bought a 2010 2 door Wrangler Jk (my first jeep) and I am considering the Teraflex 2.5′ budget boost. I really know nothing about lifts or suspensions so any advice is helpful. What exactly do I need, or would be good to have, to run this kit on my jeep with 35′ tires? Money isn’t really an issue but I don’t want to spend a fortune(else it wouldn’t be much of a budget boost lol). I would rather pay the money now as opposed to later on down the road! Thanks for the help!

  326. wayoflife September 15th, 2013 10:20 am

    Well, this is a “budget” boot meaning that it’s cheap and will pretty much give you what you need to lift your Jeep 2.5″. To clear your 35’s, you’ll most likely need to do some minor trimming of your fenders and pinch seam.

  327. Suspension Kits October 26th, 2013 7:01 am

    Nice! Thank you for sharing!

  328. John Russi December 26th, 2013 5:31 am

    Thanks for giving benefits of coil spacers.

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